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| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-22, 21:49
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #115 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1767 days Last view: 1765 days |
What else? Chrome would go against the purpose of the project, Edge has already been taken out. Opera and whatever other browsers there exist would be far more controversial choices. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| Kawaoneechan |
Posted on 19-03-22, 22:24
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Oatmeal? Are you crazy?
 Post: #181 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 199 days Last view: 14 hours |
What other choices? Opera is just Chrome by another name, has been for a while now. The way this is going we'll have only two browsers again: Chrome (including chromes-by-another-name Edge, Opera, Vivaldi...) and Firefox. Watch Mozilla make a critical error. |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-22, 23:23 (revision 2)
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #116 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1767 days Last view: 1765 days |
Yeah, exactly. There isn't anything else but Chrome and Firefox, and out of those two Firefox is the prudent choice - regardless of what you think about Mozilla, if you ship Chrome in a privacy-focused "distro", you're probably not the brightest tool in the shed... But yeah, we're all fucked. The HTML5 spec is 1243 pages, with the last update (of the "Living Standard") on 2019-03-22 - three days ago. CSS I can't even count, because it's spread over a lot of HTML pages, but I hardly think it's any better. Then another 805 pages for ECMAScript. Firefox is 37 million LOC (across 43 languages), while the Linux kernel (including all drivers) clocks in at a measly 25 million. So you've got your work cut out for you. No sane person would want to implement all of this for free, knowing that it would take them years to get something usable, and nobody sees any reason to fund the development of another rendering engine except for those two. So yeah, our only hope is for some Terry Davis-type mad genius to start making one. Hopefully not in 640x480 VGA, but you take what you get. There is this one guy in Russia working on it, and that's the only attempt at a third-party engine I've ever seen [EDIT: not counting Servo, which is Mozilla-developed]. He does have a fully functioning HTML parser though, and it is much faster than anything else. According to his own benchmarks, about 10x faster than gumbo. Current Status of the Project The current version is 0.0.6 - devel EDIT 2: Apparently he renamed it from Modest to Lexbor. You can see the roadmap here. 4/33. David vs. Goliath, only there's no slingshot. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| nyanpasu64 |
Posted on 19-03-23, 04:24
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Post: #30 of 77
Since: 10-31-18 Last post: 1193 days Last view: 1119 days |
Netsurf is a "lightweight browser" (though I haven't used it recently, and it's probably incompatible with much of the web). |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-23, 05:08
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Custom title here
 Post: #350 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by jimbo1qazSo's Dillo. If you REALLY wanna get light, there's Links2. That's as light as it gets while still rendering images. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| Nicholas Steel |
Posted on 19-03-23, 09:17 (revision 1)
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Post: #159 of 426
Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 502 days Last view: 17 days |
Posted by sureanem What happens when you install a Cumulative Update for Windows 10? Does any of the removed stuff get reinstalled or is the update process smart enough to not do that? Or are you supposed to just never update your copy of Windows 10 and leave your system full of security holes and bugs? AMD Ryzen 3700X | MSI Gamer Geforce 1070Ti 8GB | 16GB 3600MHz DDR4 RAM | ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) Motherboard | Windows 10 x64 |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-23, 09:46
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Custom title here
Post: #351 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by Nicholas Steel They completely disabled Windows Update. Or are you supposed to just never update your copy of Windows 10 and leave your system full of security holes and bugs?That. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-23, 11:30
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #117 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1767 days Last view: 1765 days |
Posted by Nicholas Steel You don't, they ship updated versions since the updates need to get patched too. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-23, 21:25
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Custom title here
Post: #352 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Instead of speculating on how wildly illegal a derivative work of Windows 10 is, I read the EULA(horror!). Aaaaand... The license explicitly prohibits this, to the surprise of absolutely no one. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| Kakashi |
Posted on 19-03-24, 03:55 (revision 1)
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Posted by CaptainJistuce https://ameliorated.info/documentation.html#updates "may be in jeopardy" |
| Nicholas Steel |
Posted on 19-03-24, 05:29 (revision 7)
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Post: #161 of 426
Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 502 days Last view: 17 days |
I thought I'd try the dism /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup command and see how much space it'd free up on my system. It uses the classic Microsoft progress bar where it gets to 99% quickly and then sits there for decades (occasionally a second progress bar will appear that quickly goes from 0 to 100%). The programs intermittently hammering the CPU and SSD according to Task Manager. So far it's freed up at least 1GB of space. I assume it's erasing the installers for all the previously downloaded updates, removing my ability to uninstall the updates if desired. Edit: Now it's consuming all of the CPU and making Youtube videos stop rendering video... and now it completed. It freed up about 4GB's of space. AMD Ryzen 3700X | MSI Gamer Geforce 1070Ti 8GB | 16GB 3600MHz DDR4 RAM | ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) Motherboard | Windows 10 x64 |
| wertigon |
Posted on 19-03-24, 16:11
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Post: #23 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 159 days Last view: 30 days |
My take on the entire Windows 7/8.1 nagging bullshit: Sucks, but, if you want to keep running windows get on the fucking train. It's just going to be worse and worse from here on out. What, you don't like that? Sucks. Run Linux, BSD or OSX. Linux even allows for passthrough mode, allowing you to run Windows 10 in a VM for those two must-have applications you're still hooked on. You don't like that either? Perhaps ReactOS could be something for you then, though I doubt ReactOS will ever get the traction they need for mainstream support. Microsoft the lord of windows hath spoken, and thy lord tells thou to to windows 10, or keep behind as the land dries up. Those are thy options! On a more personal level, I feel for you, but trying to change things now is like trying to get Hillary elected for President in 2020. It ain't happening. Work from where you are not from how you want things to be. |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-24, 18:36
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #121 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1767 days Last view: 1765 days |
Sucks, but, if you want to keep running windows get on the fucking train. It's just going to be worse and worse from here on out. In other words, exactly what Win 10 AME is aiming to do? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| wertigon |
Posted on 19-03-24, 22:22
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Post: #24 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 159 days Last view: 30 days |
Posted by sureanem Oh, you still don't get it, you poor soul. :/ If you run any Windows older than 10 at this point, Microsoft has you by the balls and squeezing hard. This is not opinion, this is well documented fact. AME won't get anywhere. It's a C&D lawsuit waiting to happen, since copyright law expressly forbids every redistribution and modification of Windows 10. You do not have a legal means of fixing the Windows telemetry. Your best bet if you want to stay in Windows land besides that is ReactOS, which will always play second fiddle to Windows. Sure you could do a whole lot of dodging and weaving, but running Windows 7 will soon be more painful than running NetBSD, and Windows 8.1 isn't far behind. |
| tomman |
Posted on 19-03-24, 22:53 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
 Post: #220 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 31 min. Last view: 9 min. |
Windows XP went nowhere south of the border, just sayin' Being unsupported by every major AV solution, web browser, videogame, office suite, and pretty much anything of value hasn't stopped people from running XP. Banks still truck along with their IE6 intranet apps. The government still manages to get up and running those Compaq Evo pizzaboxes that couldn't even run any serious modern Linux distro with acceptable performance, and are hopeless with anything made past XP. For those people, "pain" is not just an option, but an acceptable tradeoff. I can see a similar fate for 7 or (God forbid!) 8.1. In my particular case, Windows still survives on this house due to games (which I don't even play) and hardware service tools (good luck tinkering with HDD firmware without those Very Expensive Soviet Tools, or their pirate Chinese knockoffs, some of those still recommending the use of a XP host just to not deal with UAC or driver signing annoyances). Aside of those niche usages, I'm a happy camper on my Debian setups. In any case, the era of personal computers is long gone, with or without Windows. Between streaming-for-everything and the switch from creation to consumption of contents, very few people (outside nerds and some business for whose change == money we can't/won't spend) cares about Windows versions going EOL :/ Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-25, 00:54
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Custom title here
Post: #355 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by wertigonCopyright law in the US explicitly allows modification for personal use. Just not distribution of those modifications. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| tomman |
Posted on 19-03-25, 01:08
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Dinosaur
Post: #221 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 31 min. Last view: 9 min. |
Shitlist this patch on your next WU visit: KB4493132 https://support.microsoft.com/help/4493132/windows-7-update-kb4493132 This is the "GET Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| wareya |
Posted on 19-03-25, 04:18
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 Post: #53 of 100 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1785 days Last view: 1350 days |
Posted by CaptainJistuce Specifically it does not allow redistribution of modified materials. It doesn't forbid distribution of modification instructions (aside from DMCA related DRM circumvention stuff). |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-25, 05:47
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Custom title here
Post: #356 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Right. These guys could post scripts to do the modifications, and instructions. But they can't legally just put up a new Windows distro. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 19-03-25, 06:45
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 Post: #101 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 47 days Last view: 4 days |
Posted by tomman Ironically this update has failed to install on my work PC for the last few days, so I just hid it. My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
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