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| tomman |
Posted on 20-07-06, 18:31 (revision 3)
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Dinosaur
 Post: #738 of 1316 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1 hour Last view: 1 hour |
Speaking about Socket 7 wonders, Debian 8 (Jessie) LTS ended a week ago, which means Saki is now completely unsupported by any of the currently maintained Debian releases*, as i686-class CPUs (Pentium Pro and later) became the baseline for the i386 port starting with Stretch. But... for how long Debian had actually supported my hardware? Let's recap: The M535/8 motherboard is a design from circa 1996, built around an Intel chipset design (i430VX/Triton II) from 1995 (as the copyright on the actual ICs silkscreen says). My particular specimen (a v1.3 board) was built sometime around early '97 - IC datestamps are from late January to mid-February, and since I can't just tear this thing down to find the PCB manufacturing date at the back of the motherboard, let's consider component supply lead times and assume an assembly date of late April '97 at the very latest (yes, this mobo was already outdated junk when its original owner bought it brand new). Now, let's check this handy Debian version release history page. The nearest release would be a couple months later (Debian 1.3 "Bo", released in 1997/06/05), nicely giving some time between the assembly at Taiwan and the arrival at your friendly crappy computers dealer on an unspecified Venezuelan location (which could have been several months in between considering how glacially slow were Customs back then), so let's assume support for VX boards was rudimentary on whatever 2.x kernel they were using back then (2.0.27 on Rex, .34 on Bo), but Good Enough™ to boot to a text console - maybe even to X and TWM if you knew which magical enchants to recite. Let's count: Bo->Hamm->Slink->Potato->Woody->Sarge->Etch->Lenny->Squeeze->Wheezy->Jessie 11 releases in a 23-year time span! Not even Apple can claim such a great support! Sure, this machine stopped being able to boot to X at least 10 years ago (last time I tried, it was in 2006 - it took forever and a half to start KDE 3... but surprisingly it could even run NetBeans!) Compare to Windows versions likely to be run on this hardware: 95 (support ended in 2002), 98 (2006), possibly NT4 (2004), maaaaaaaaybe 2K (2010) if you maxed out RAM and had a suitable PCI videocard, and I guess XP (2015) would boot on this one with a lot of effort (but forget about service packs!). That is, between 5 and up to 18 years of support, depending on which degree of pain you were willing to endure. Thus, Debian is truly the "Universal" OS. No - Saki hasn't been running Debian since 1997: I became her owner back in December 2006 as a bunch of spare parts at the college dorms (I know absolutely nothing from her previous life as a desktop computer, but I guess it ran Win9x until being decommissioned). Original name was "p100crashbox", then shortly after became Saki as her first duty under my ownership was to record audio from dubbed anime at the regional Animax station (bittersweet memories indeed, and one of the many reasons I fucking hate $ON¥) - extra points if you guess the anime! No, it's not the "girls playing mahjong" one. Her first OS was Knoppix 5.0.1, which was based on Debian But I guess the road is now over, now wondering what will die first: those failing capacitors on the VRM, or the about-to-pumpkinize kernel 3.16 and friends. But then, I'm no stranger to the eternal EOL'd road :P tl;dr: What would be the oldest computer that could run the currently supported Debian stable release? *There is ELTS which extends Jessie lifetime up to 2022, but it's strictly a 3rd-party program, and only a very limited selection of sponsored packages are supported. Plus I don't know if their i386 packages actually work on pre-i686 targets... Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 20-07-10, 14:54
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 Post: #279 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 44 days Last view: 1 day |
Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition for PC Before You Buy My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-07-13, 17:40
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Dinosaur
Post: #741 of 1316 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1 hour Last view: 1 hour |
Virtual Ribbon, the ultimate Virtual Boy fix noone asked for! Gotta love their motto: ONLY THE BEST HEADACHES™ Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-14, 01:08
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Custom title here
 Post: #892 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
Posted by tomman I might actually need these. My Virtual Boy hasn't been set up in a few years due to lack of space, but... Figures it would take a Sega fan to fix the Virtual Boy. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-07-14, 23:10 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
Post: #742 of 1316 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1 hour Last view: 1 hour |
Milestone Danbooru posts: #1: shimapan catgirl from a well known h-game series - May 23, 2005 #1M: hot Velma, anime style by a Canadian drawfag - September 20, 2011 #2M: some random shipgirl flashing some panties - May 1st, 2015 #3M: cute mandarin orange foxgirl (she DOES have her own Pixiv tag!) - January 27, 2018 #4M: Pool: Scenery Porn by some baka gaijin - today >6 years -> <4 years -> <3 years -> >2 years -> ??? But then, nothing beats STRONGEST GET EVAR: #999999 A ⑨/⑨ pic of ⑨⑨ Cirnos gets the ⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨GET. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 20-07-15, 06:43
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Post: #280 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 44 days Last view: 1 day |
The average danbooru picture:The largest danbooru pools: My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-07-17, 03:00
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Dinosaur
Post: #743 of 1316 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1 hour Last view: 1 hour |
The latest from Planet "You're Doing It Wrong" aka Apple Computers: Don't close your MacBook, MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro with a cover over the camera Closing your Mac notebook with a camera cover on it might damage your display. Designed to protect your privacy, Mac notebooks have a camera indicator light to let you know when the camera is on. Yeah, listen to the kings of proprietary software and disposable hardware, because we can totally trust a software-controlled LED (even if it's actually done on firmware). Because IT HAZ TO BE THEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNN!!! Only Apple would design a laptop whose display cracks if you tape over the camera cover. And now, you need Apple-certfied® camera covers for your razor-thin Macs. All because Apple can't offer cameraless laptop for the few paranoid nutters and corporations/governments that actually care about security! Oh wait, I forgot computers went the cellphone way a decade ago, and you can't simply buy a cameraless device even if you try. Now if you buy a smartjunk, it comes with not one, but TWO cameras (I've yet to use the front-facing camera on my Android turd - I'm not a Instagranolas whore and videocalls just don't mix with our pathetic excuses of mobile networks). GAH! Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-17, 05:25 (revision 2)
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Custom title here
Post: #893 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
Posted by tomman I saw this. Was particularly fond of "If your work environment requires you to cover the camera on your Mac notebook, follow these guidelines to avoid damaging the display: Make sure the camera cover is not thicker than an average piece of printer paper (0.1mm)." Apparently closing the laptop on exceptionally thick paper risks damage?
*flips over his pocket PC to count lenses* Three cameras. Two on the back(for SOME reason), one on the front for video phones(the future is now!) and nostril photos. Sometimes many more(Nokia 9 PureView, we will never forget your creepy fly's-eye back and six lenses, try though we might) --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-07-19, 03:39
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 Post: #71 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1461 days Last view: 1461 days |
Multiple cameras for multiple modes, because in a device like that, it's cheaper and easier to include multiple fixed function cameras than it is to throw in one camera with a giant focusing apparatus. Also, you can't do multi-focal photos simultaneously without multiple cameras anyway. As for the thickness of the paper or tape, just remember, anything thicker, and you could be putting pressure on the delicate electronics and the glass. Thicker, they're probably thinking of anyone who would tape a sheet of cardboard over the lens, instead of, say, just slapping a Post-It over it. And possibly also haphazardly closing your MacBook on it by slamming the damn thing shut, putting an extra load of pressure on that camera spot. Nobody said they made the most durable hardware, but it is some of the best in its price point, and also halfway decent at cooling, what with the entire laptop body being a giant heatsink. ARMac will only make the thermal issue better. Consider something that only gets as hot as your average Apple smart thing does, only now it's got a giant heatsink body to improve the thermals. Imagine, if you will, that they put out something way better than the prototype hardware, which already shows that it can perform nicely, and runs like a low spec MacBook Air when virtualizing x86_64 code in tight loops. If they can pull that off, maybe they have something to this whole "ARM PC" thing. Meanwhile, I keep hearing random people in my friendly neighborhood (not literally neighborhood) chats that are really dying to get their hands on some RISC-V PCs. Yeah, sure. And I bet there's already a solution for running x86 code on those, right? Or were they all planning to go whole hog and throw all proprietary software in the trash? |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-07-19, 14:18
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Dinosaur
Post: #744 of 1316 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1 hour Last view: 1 hour |
Posted by kode54 Here is a tip for making long-lasting hardware: stop making laptops THIN! There is no real need to do so, it only makes hardware extremely fragile for no good reason at all, it compromise thermals (and therefore performance and lifetime), and it leads to machines that can be awkward to use because you have to treat them in special ways. Please, I don't want to witness a market where the only thick machines left are Panasonic Toughbooks and hideous gamer laptops for people with really bad taste (Even nerd-beloved Thinkpads are in the "extreme diet" phase, last time I bothered checking because "bento boxes aren't sexy anymore") The main reason of why post-iPhone Apple devices really piss me off are their constant terrible design compromises (port removals, glued lithium batteries, soldered everything, "you're holding it wrong", anorexically thin, walled gardens, heavy dependence on The Clown) that end being copied by the competition (because only marketing can turn bad ideas into market hits), which once again leads us to a shittier market, and people get used to suck because "pretty" and trends. "Sensible" has died a miserable death, it seems. Posted by kode54 Some of us don't depend on proprietary software (at least for earning a living), so certainly the underlying platform doesn't really matter as long as there is a compiler for it. But YMMV - someone in the "graphic design" area has legit reasons to worry about ARMacs and to not give a fuck over RISC-V/PPC, yet a Starbucks Javascript LOLcoder can code on nearly everything that can run Chrome. What I really want to see from the RISC-V ecosystem is the comeback of socketed CPUs and RAM, but I guess that ship has sailed and most nerds don't give a flying fuck over it as long as they have the sourcecode for the microcode. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-23, 08:57
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Custom title here
Post: #895 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
Stupid shit I did today: --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-30, 11:25
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Custom title here
Post: #897 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
https://twitter.com/Wipz/status/1288489280600526849 Some guy learning that land on Earth doesn't just float on top of the ocean, and you can't dig down through the bottom. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| funkyass |
Posted on 20-07-30, 20:05 (revision 1)
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Post: #146 of 202
Since: 11-01-18 Last post: 660 days Last view: 16 days |
you can see the moment when his brain melted. I wonder how many people in the stream where going why would you dig, just walk into the ocean... |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-07-30, 23:59
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Post: #72 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1461 days Last view: 1461 days |
Same energy, really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5dkqUy7mUk |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-31, 02:46
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Custom title here
Post: #899 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
Posted by kode54 Don't homeschool your representatives, bro. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 20-07-31, 05:19
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Post: #284 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 44 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by CNN My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-07-31, 06:39
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Custom title here
Post: #900 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 63 days Last view: 13 hours |
Posted by creaothceannI guess it is region-blocked. It is a video from a decade ago of a congressional representative expressing concerns that building a new military base on Guam will cause the island to capsize. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 20-08-07, 14:57
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Post: #285 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 44 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by creaothceann Horizon Zero Dawn PC: An Amazing Game Gets A Disappointing Port :( My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-08-09, 00:15
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Post: #74 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1461 days Last view: 1461 days |
Speaking of disappointing: https://twitter.com/__silent_/status/1291771718504271874 OK, what the heck is up with Horizon Zero Dawn executable? 
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| Kawaoneechan |
Posted on 20-08-09, 00:22
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Secretly, I'm Matvey Soloviev
 Post: #506 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 195 days Last view: 8 hours |
... okay, that's just sad. |
