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    Posted on 19-07-18, 22:57
    Dinosaur

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    Just learned about this tragedy (it's doing the rounds around all the news sources I know).

    This is terrorism, plain and simple (and of the "not by angry religious zealots" kind that everybody knows). This guy deserves a fate worse than death. No mercy, no sympathy.

    I heard Sentai Filmworks is doing a crowdsourcing campaing for donations towards helping KyoAni rebuild.

    On the other side, FFS JAPAM:
    - They still neglect their heavy mind health troubles they have in their society, where police keeps ignoring random death threats that are increasingly becoming true.
    - I can't believe that for a so-called 1st-world nation, their fire safety codes don't enforce fire evacuation rehearsals! Most of the people that died was due to suffocation by smoke, mostly because they didn't knew how to safely evacuate.

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    Posted on 19-07-18, 23:11
    Stirrer of Shit
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    What about the train theory?
    It seems just insane enough that it could be true.



    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-18, 23:33
    Stirrer of Shit
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    Posted by tomman
    On the other side, FFS JAPAM:
    - They still neglect their heavy mind health troubles they have in their society, where police keeps ignoring random death threats that are increasingly becoming true.
    - I can't believe that for a so-called 1st-world nation, their fire safety codes don't enforce fire evacuation rehearsals! Most of the people that died was due to suffocation by smoke, mostly because they didn't knew how to safely evacuate.


    Well sure, but doesn't any business bigger than say $1m annual turnover get lots of those? It would be prohibitively expensive to flip your shit whenever someone posts something on the Internet. Then some madman could just go on Tor and send death threats to random companies all over the world and watch society collapse with a few phone calls and you'd be complaining about that instead.

    (Side note: I've always wondered why there aren't more death/bomb threats. They easily make national or even international news, the risk of getting caught is zero with basic computer skills, and you need next to no resources to post them. All you need is one madman. Even with only 5% success rate, if he's unemployed that's a whole lot of buildings shut down. That Israeli kid managed to single-handedly bomb hoax synagogues to the point where the press reported a 50% YoY hate crime spike, and that Jewish-American NEET even managed to shitpost his way into a terrorist attack)

    Your second point I agree with. Perhaps a bit worse, they don't do drills for their nuclear reactors. Why? Oh, they'd lose face if they'd fail.

    Japan does a lot of things right, but sometimes you wonder how on Earth they manage to get by with such a striking lack of common sense.

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-19, 00:07
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    Shit, anime has a proud tradition of not taking death threats seriously.

    When Hideaki Anno got death threats over how Evangelion ended, you kno what he did? He took photos of them and put them in the Eva movie, as a final mockery to the obsessive freaks that would send a man death threats over a cartoon.
    He damn sure didn't shut Gainax down over it.

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    Posted on 19-07-19, 00:16

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    Posted by CaptainJistuce
    Or ex-fans. Tell everyone he's responsible for Endless Eight and see what happens.

    You monster!
    Posted by sureanem
    Japan does a lot of things right, but sometimes you wonder how on Earth they manage to get by with such a striking lack of common sense.

    As they say, common sense is not common... that's why laws have been put in place. But then again, if laws were established using common sense, but common sense is not common...

    Seriously though, I imagine it's hard to prepare contingencies for things like death threats, especially since its nature can be very vague and you don't know the probability of any one person actually going through with it.

    I still have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Posted on 19-07-19, 07:56

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    A day at Kyoto Animation from the perspective of their mascot character Baja

    Baja no Studio takes place in a fictionalized version of Kyoto Animation Studio 1, the building where the fire took place yesterday.


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    Posted on 19-07-19, 22:47
    Stirrer of Shit
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    I think taking all these one-in-a-million chances seriously is a really stupid idea. It really brings no tangible value to your life to go around and be scared of airplanes or terrorist attacks, for instance, and the only way to avoid them is to live as a total recluse. Probably you should worry about other stuff that's actually dangerous, like eating junk food or whatever. But it really isn't productive to freak out over words on paper.

    Wikipedia claims people price a one-in-a-million risk of early death at -$50 if you ask them. This is absurd, would you really pay $50 to avoid (the gross risk of death stemming from) walking 27 km? If everyone in the world took such a risk, 7000 people would die. How many people die from eating too much junk food every day? Granted, some observers would argue they would have had it coming, but I digress. And then you wonder why people get lying politicians, who argue infinity resources ought to be expended as long as it saves just one person. (Great article series on the matter if you have the time)

    Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that it was absolutely the right call to ignore the threat, even if it didn't play out all too well in hindsight. Then again, does anything?

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-20, 00:52 (revision 1)
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    If you were trapped like that wouldn't you just open a window and lean out of it for air? Obviously this'd provide oxygen for the fire but still...

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    Posted on 19-07-20, 04:54

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    Posted by Nicholas Steel
    If you were trapped like that wouldn't you just open a window and lean out of it for air? Obviously this'd provide oxygen for the fire but still...

    If the staff didn't have a robust fire plan in place, they might not have known what to do. Also, considering the majority of materials in the building, the spread of the fire would've been crazy rapid and they simply might not have had enough time to react.

    I still have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Posted on 19-07-20, 05:30
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    A lot of modern buildings are designed for air-conditioning rather than natural airflow, and so their windows are designed to not open. It might have made sense to smash the window, but most people are taught from a young age to avoid breaking glass under any circumstances, and it takes a certain amount of clear-headedness to decide that in this particular circumstance it's OK.

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    Posted on 19-07-20, 11:37
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    Posted by Nicholas Steel
    If you were trapped like that wouldn't you just open a window and lean out of it for air? Obviously this'd provide oxygen for the fire but still...

    That might solve the asphyxiation issue(or just let the fire's outgassing flood the building more efficiently since it no longer has to work so hard to displace the trapped fresh air), but you're still basically on top of a very large barbecue grill.
    Also, they did open the windows. Not for fresh air, though.

    I saw someone elsewhere paste a New York Times article that touched on this aspect, and while I will spare people the grisly details... people were jumping out of them, mostly after already suffering severe burns.




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    Posted on 19-07-21, 21:45
    Stirrer of Shit
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    Posted by Screwtape
    A lot of modern buildings are designed for air-conditioning rather than natural airflow, and so their windows are designed to not open. It might have made sense to smash the window, but most people are taught from a young age to avoid breaking glass under any circumstances, and it takes a certain amount of clear-headedness to decide that in this particular circumstance it's OK.

    Useless trivia: in some police/military training, students are explicitly trained to drop their glasses of water or whatever since it's otherwise such a strongly held reflex to not drop fragile stuff to the ground.

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-22, 01:44 (revision 1)

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    I read about the work environment in most animation studios and how artists are usually poorly paid and treated like crap; and KyoAni was one of the few studios who actually provide fair wages, some benefits, and even some support for staff for skills development and stuff. I just feel worse knowing that they were one of the better companies around and this happens to them.

    I still have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Posted on 19-08-01, 11:22 (revision 1)
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    So... having seen some stuff about the newest Symphogear, I've decided to get back on the wagon. I dropped it midway through season 3, for various reasons(most of which were unrelated to the show). And now there's five seasons of girls fighting evil using weapons powered by insert songs.

    ...

    I'm STILL annoyed that way back in 2012 season 2 decided every last one of these girls needed to be gay for another one of these girls, and the transformations needed to be sexy like a PROPER magical girl show.
    One is just hamfisted pandering(to sell doujins, as opposed to CDs), and the other is traditional magical girl affair but I LIKED the unconventional transformations used in season 1.

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    Posted on 19-08-01, 18:02 (revision 1)

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    I'm curious whether I should that give that a go or not.

    Wifey and I binged One Punch Man over the weekend; having seen season 1 when it first came out and comparing season 2 I can understand the disappointment of fans. Something about the direction and definitely a lot about the art was not bad, but at most was just


    We also watched I Want To Eat your Pancreas, Maquia: When the Promised Flower Blooms, and Into the Forest of Fireflies over the past three evenings. They're all pretty good and definitely recommended if you're looking for feature-length offerings. Personally, not the typical stuff I'd choose to watch on my own, but only because I stuff I watch are typically more shounen or hard sci-fi based. And admittedly, I seem to be quicker to waterworks for some time now than I'd like to admit, guess it comes with age :P

    Also saw Aggretsuko S2 last night which was a nice switch of pace from the above titles. Working in a professional business setting is hard XD

    I still have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Posted on 19-08-02, 07:58 (revision 1)
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    Posted by KoiMaxx
    I'm curious whether I should that give that a go or not.

    I strongly recommend the first season. I have misgivings about S2 and S3, but don't hate them.

    I'll get back to you on 4 and 5.


    To be clear, I watched season 1 expecting hilarious trash. I got favorites material.

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    Posted on 19-08-02, 12:38 (revision 1)
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    Oh, right. This is why I fell off the wagon during GX. Because I wanted to punch Hibiki's good-for-nothing deadbeat dad in the face, and I CAN'T BECAUSE THIS DAMN SHEET OF GLASS IS IN MY WAY!

    ...

    Also a distinct lack of Tsubasa. The season is heavily driven by character growth(and awesome action scenes), and most of Tsubasa's baggage was dealt with in season 1.
    Chris's has been idling below the surface, which I actually appreciate. She's got a fucked-up past, and they've made it clear she's still dealing with it. She's not just "Life is beautiful and all my troubles are washed away by the power of friendship!" Girl has issues, quite justifiably, and she merely wears the facade of a happy and (more-or-less) well-adjusted teenage girl. I mean, seriously, look at the ending lyrics for any season.

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    Posted on 19-08-08, 14:50 (revision 1)

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    Posted by tomman
    Just learned about this tragedy (it's doing the rounds around all the news sources I know).

    This is terrorism, plain and simple (and of the "not by angry religious zealots" kind that everybody knows). This guy deserves a fate worse than death. No mercy, no sympathy.


    or the same fate as the sarin attack perpetrators since Japan has capital punishment.

    Posted by CaptainJistuce

    That might solve the asphyxiation issue(or just let the fire's outgassing flood the building more efficiently since it no longer has to work so hard to displace the trapped fresh air), but you're still basically on top of a very large barbecue grill.
    Also, they did open the windows. Not for fresh air, though.

    I saw someone elsewhere paste a New York Times article that touched on this aspect, and while I will spare people the grisly details... people were jumping out of them, mostly after already suffering severe burns.


    yes unfortunately I think there was very little time to react.The thick black smoke will incapacitate someone very quickly and before they know what's going on it will render you unconscious fast...
    Posted on 19-08-08, 15:16

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    Posted by DonJon

    yes unfortunately I think there was very little time to react.The thick black smoke will incapacitate someone very quickly and before they know what's going on it will render you unconscious fast...
    And not just that, it's also very hazardous to the first responders
    https://youtu.be/ZyCCWuO0mQo?t=286

    I still have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Posted on 19-08-11, 08:27
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    So to kick this thread back to some semblance of on-topic(don't worry, we're only going to be rails-adjacent)...


    I've got a regular social engagement where me and a couple of friends watch anime and/or suit action and/or whatever else seems interesting. One of them was saying he missed having a Masked Rider* series on the schedule, because we haven't had one going for a while.
    ...
    I split the difference and sloted in Go-Busters, which is the Super Squad* show that everyone hated because it struck a more serious tone and setting than the franchise normally hews towards. Characters acted less cartoonish, the villain was vicious, lethal, and competent... To oversimplify things, it wanted to be a Masked Rider show. (Meanwhile, the Masked Rider franchise at the time was running the borderline-slapstick Fourze. So the balance was maintained.)

    I've determined, with a random sampling of shows, that I can't actually stand the Super Squad shows... except for Go-Busters. It hits a line between SERIOUS DRAMA and FORM BLAZING SWORD that I'm really comfortable with.
    And everything the fanbase hated about it and felt should've been done differently is something I really liked.



    I mention all of this mostly because I feel Kawa would appreciate said friend's desire to see a Go-Busters/Masked Rider Drive team-up, rooted solely in the fact that they both have cool cars and superheroing equipment that announces "let's driving" in engrish.





    *Franchise titles translated from Kamen Rider and Super Sentai because leaving titles untranslated is almost universally stupid.

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