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| Nicholas Steel |
Posted on 19-03-03, 15:25
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I don't think colour banding will go away until HDMI 2.1 becomes common. Until then 4k displays can't be 10bit, 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and support HDR all at the same time afaik. AMD Ryzen 3700X | MSI Gamer Geforce 1070Ti 8GB | 16GB 3600MHz DDR4 RAM | ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) Motherboard | Windows 10 x64 |
| wareya |
Posted on 19-03-03, 16:45
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displayport is already perfectly normal though |
| BearOso |
Posted on 19-03-03, 18:00
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Posted by CaptainJistuce At a distance of 10-15 feet, 1080p->2160p on anything less than 55 inches is indistinguishable. Even then it wouldn't make much difference. Up close, however, 2160p is significantly better. I can't go back to 96dpi computer displays. I'm hoping for a 5120x2880 27" monitor (other than the one that's out). That would be perfection.
But you can't see more than 24 frames per second anyway! No, you typical internet dolt! 20fps is the bare minimum to perceive motion and 24fps is a standard used by filmmakers that's only slightly above that. |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-03, 20:13
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #65 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1766 days Last view: 1764 days |
Posted by CaptainJistuce Not everyone lives in America. Sure, you ought to be able to get Netflix on there. But what about obscure, regional streaming services? Maybe if you live in the UK, you can get BBC iPlayer on there. But can every broadcaster in every country afford to port their "player" to each brand of televisions? Do they even care? Add in that many people like to watch dodgy soccer streams, IPTV, torrents, and similar, and it stands to reason that the compatibility and ease of use will never come close to the good ol' VGA cable. Maybe if the TV manufacturers start integrating Popcorn Time into their TVs, we could start talking. A TV signal is much worse than DVD quality. DVDs don't have grain, and have much higher resolutions. And at any rate, it's absolutely pointless and a waste of time to display either signal on a 4K monitor. The same goes for consoles, except maybe for the rare few who don't output through composite. The TV won't be your bottleneck, the signal will. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| BearOso |
Posted on 19-03-03, 22:05
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Post: #50 of 175 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1453 days Last view: 1453 days |
Posted by sureanem We've got a Samsung one and it has basically everything available. You'd have to be *very* obscure or be illegitimate to not be on there, and even then it still might. You've got roughly 3 or 4 operating systems to port to, all unix, all framebuffer APIs. Hell, you can write an HTML5 video app and you're done.
On Sony and LG TVs you can side-load popcorn time, but you well know offering something like that straight up is out of the question. VGA cable and ease of use together? Surely you're joking. Screw-on connectors and not being sure your cable has the right wires and pins is easier than HDMI's plug and done? In what alternate universe was VGA common on TVs?
In the US, ATSC is 720p or 1080i. DVDs cap out at 480p. Sure, you're more likely to have compression artifacts with OTA TV, but it absolutely has higher resolution than DVD. DVDs will have grain, too, if the camera filming had grain. The same goes for consoles, except maybe for the rare few who don't output through composite. The TV won't be your bottleneck, the signal will. Rare few? The last console to output composite was the Wii, and that was released 12 years ago. Yes, 4K was little more than a buzzword initially and its use in conjunction with compressed video is unjustifiable, but PS4 Pro and Xbox whatever use it now, and the next generation in a little more than a year will make it more widespread. With games you sit close, and unlike video, rendering produces aliasing. 4K helps with this. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-04, 00:46
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Posted by BearOsoFifteen feet? There's not a room in this house you can get fifteen feet from the TV. Both our TVs are 55" at about six feet. I can grab the tape measure when I get home. But at 15 feet, I'd definitely be looking at something bigger than 55". --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| Nicholas Steel |
Posted on 19-03-04, 02:31 (revision 2)
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Posted by sureanem In Australia all Free-to-Air TV stations now broadcast in a digital format (so there is no grainyness in the signal), while there are still some standard definition channels most of the good channels are 720p or 1080i, the 1080i channels are nearly as good as a blueray and also utilize the .h264 encoding. AMD Ryzen 3700X | MSI Gamer Geforce 1070Ti 8GB | 16GB 3600MHz DDR4 RAM | ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) Motherboard | Windows 10 x64 |
| tomman |
Posted on 19-03-04, 03:56 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
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Posted by BearOso lolATSC. Yes, I heard they did revised the standard down the road to switch to better codecs... but you will have to buy new TVs/tuners. AGAIN. And this is why I'm glad that among the few SANE decisions the commies took over here was to adopt the awesome ISDB-Tb as our digital TV system, with its glorious H.264 video encoding. (See, the "b" is important: thanks to Brazil who hacked up and improved vanilla ISDB-T, we're free from MPEG-2 bitrate waste doom. They also got rid from some insignificant bits, like mandatory DRM/encryption) If only there were actual content to watch and take advantage of all that cool tech stuff (H.264, interactive apps made in Lua with an optional Java layer noone is going to deploy ever, 1-seg so we can watch blurry QVGA shit on our cellphones for free, unlike you 'muricans where you have to pay for OTA TV!), instead of all that gubmint propaganda poison... What a waste of precious unencrypted MPEG-2 transport streams :/ Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-04, 22:45
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #66 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1766 days Last view: 1764 days |
Didn't they broadcast anime fansubs on there a while ago? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| Duck Penis |
Posted on 19-03-04, 22:53
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Stirrer of Shit
Post: #67 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1766 days Last view: 1764 days |
Posted by BearOso Last time I used a smart TV, which was several years ago, they didn't have much of anything. That might have changed though. The average customer can't be arsed to sideload apps on their TV, but they would gladly stream from their computer or a chink IPTV box.
I much prefer VGA to HDMI. More common, and stays in. Nobody is forcing you to screw it in, but it makes sure it stays affixed unlike HDMI which flies halfway across the room if you sneeze at it. But yeah, HDMI, same thing. Still connecting a computer to it.
That's HDTV, I'm talking about normal TV. Yeah, that probably has better quality than DVD. Wouldn't surprise me.
What other consoles are there? Switch doesn't need a TV, and the PS4/Xbone are mostly irrelevant. Never heard of anyone owning one. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| BearOso |
Posted on 19-03-04, 23:16
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Post: #51 of 175 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 1453 days Last view: 1453 days |
Please tell me you're trolling and not really this thick-headed. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-04, 23:22
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Post: #291 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
I can't actually tell. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| tomman |
Posted on 19-03-05, 00:04
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Dinosaur
Post: #188 of 1317 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 2 days Last view: 5 hours |
Posted by sureanem Ah, there is this state-owned channel (Avila TV) that still does, in true socialist fashion. But apparently they now pirate Crunchyroll dubs these days, when they're not airing Dragon Ball out of YouTube rips. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| Covarr |
Posted on 19-03-06, 00:46
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Posted by KoiMaxx FWIW, ever since they realized they could track and sell our viewing histories, "smart" TVs have generally skewed cheaper than traditional "dumb" TVs. Hooray for corporations using our data to subsidize product sales! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Screw_Yall |
| BearOso |
Posted on 19-03-06, 01:58
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Posted by Covarr Joke's on them. We don't have to connect the TV to the Internet and it most certainly doesn't have a cellular modem. |
| tomman |
Posted on 19-03-06, 02:01
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Dinosaur
Post: #192 of 1317 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 2 days Last view: 5 hours |
Posted by BearOso But what's the point about buying a "smart TV" then? I want a dumb TV, just like I've been able to buy since... well, forever! Give me a panel, several inputs, and a TV tuner. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't even want USB ports on a TV! Leave that job to the pros, that is, media boxes, PCs, and everything else. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-06, 02:49 (revision 1)
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Post: #294 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by CovarrHooray! More seriously, the online television also has more features people want. The price fell due to volume disparity. ... I really should put our Vizios' mothership into the router's blocklist, even if I did explicitly disable the viewing data collection. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 19-03-06, 06:37
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Posted by tomman That's why I got a Sharp LC-48CFE4042E (48", 1080p, no smart features) and a Minix Neo U1 box. Not a perfect media player by any means (old Android version, no power/support for h.265/10-bit h.264) but that's what the HDMI cable coming from the PC is for. My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| DonJon |
Posted on 19-03-06, 08:40 (revision 2)
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Posted by BearOso Posted by CaptainJistuce for real... I think that's at least a "yellow" on the Even Advisory System (no "can't actually" unfortunately) and other HSAS derivatives |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 19-03-06, 08:57
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Post: #295 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 66 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by DonJon  --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
