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Posted on 22-01-29, 08:35 in Mozilla, *sigh*
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Posted by tomman

I mean, 32-bit PCs and Windows XP eventually have to go away, but why overcomplicating the already complicated web standards? Is it a sort of extreme sport that makes those webshits feel eternally young? A very convoluted way for ensuring job security for life? Boredom? Revenge against the world?
Personal hypothesis: The people driving stuff now are people who were into computer when they were younger. They tend to have had wealthier histories, and have probably been upgrading computers every couple of years to stay modern since they were children. This is just "how things work" in their eyes. The idea that you would continue to USE a computer that is nearing a decade old, that it could still BE USEFUL, is foreign to them.

The old guard, though? 1994's MS-DOS 6.22 listed an 8088 with 512 KB of RAM as the minimum system requirements.

I feel like this is pretty accurate. There are people I have come across on Discord who literally say "I'm sorry" when they hear my main PC is a HP Compaq 8000 Elite desktop with 4GB RAM and a Core 2 Duo... it's either funny, or sickening, or both, to think they're imagining me struggling when for what it's worth I literally have no issues other than certain modern websites bogging down performance (at least for what I use my PC for).

Posted by tomman

Speaking about Pale Moon... oh boy, TOBIN!!!
https://forum.palem
A clash of assholes (I have no sympathy for Feodor2/Roytam either, given their previous reputation), this gotta be fun.
Not the first time Tobin threatens license violators (?!) with lawyers... but then, can he afford those, instead of, y'know, in the project which desperately needs developers?

It's rather hilarious because the Windows XP hackjobs (to use Tobin terminology, regrettably) by those two are literally the only reason Pale Moon is/was even relevant. Now even the people who may have used Pale Moon because of the whole "Windows XP/Vista being really hip and cool with the weird zoomers" refuse to touch the thing.

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Their "workaround"? "Oh, we can fall back down to an actual Flash Player plugin".
...except that browser plugins (NPAPI/PPAPI) are now officially DEAD all across the board (except on AssholeMoon, because their priorities are weird), so instead of giving a hand and helping debug the (not so unlikely) case of the polyfills, we get nothing.

Pale Moon panders to weird nostalgia people, yet claims not to. It's a weird paradox. The only people I've ever seen using the thing are those within those aforementioned XP circles.

Unsurprisingly, they're absolutely fucking full of internal drama/infighting, identity politics and neo-communists/socialists (who are more like neo-liberals if anything else), and... it feels like everyone seems to know of somebody within that bubble no matter what because nerd culture is now cool on Twitter (screw the "who to follow" 'feature' and 'recommended' content based on others' following and likes).

* It's either those or it's Eastern European (usually Slavic) people who want gay people dead. Apparently being transmed is the least popular view in those circles and is literally enough to get you banned in some spaces, pretty ridiculous tbh.

GO GO GO GO!

Launch Base Zone reference?

(I only joined to follow this thread. It's pretty interesting.)
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https://www.fark.com/ is still up after all these years.
Posted on 22-02-01, 20:30 in Mozilla, *sigh*
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Yeah, I saw you link that post here.

As for emoji regexes, unsure what you mean... do you mean those crappy autoselectors that often load in huge font files from Twitter/Google servers?

Meanwhile, it seems somebody has been venting similar frustrations as you about "if it's using JavaScript, it isn't necessary and can probably be done in native code" here: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/webshite/index.html - do be warned there's a lot of UK-isms in this person's writing, so it might be slightly difficult to understand some parts for a non-native.
Posted on 22-02-02, 08:34 in Youtube
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That might just be one of the dumbest decisions they've ever made.

Reminds me of those "you must sign up to view anything relevant" forums kind of.
Posted on 22-02-02, 09:29 in I have yet to have never seen it all. (revision 1)
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Posted by creaothceann
The strangest Donkey Kong game ever?

Sure looks it. I dig the backgrounds though, probably taken from some stock photo pack or something and then downscaled for the system.

Pretty sure "borrowing" things from random pieces of media was really common in Japanese-developed games.
Posted on 22-02-02, 17:11 in Mozilla, *sigh* (revision 2)
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I'm struggling to figure how a new browser would exist that not only manages to cater to 'web apps' but is also fighting against the Chromopoly (and Mozilla's persistent Google-bribed idiocy), at least without a Big Five company buying out the technology and messing everything up and/or having to start it in the first place. Or something like Mozilla Foundation happening where it starts off fine initially and then gradually gets fucked up to the point where one might as well just use the other product due to declining amounts of reason to cling to it*.

Also, try talking ordinary, everyday people into using something other than Chrome. They react with an aura of stubbornness that is generally not to be expected from normies.

* This remark does not apply to SeaMonkey, as it actually has purpose unlike modern Firefox. Its slower release cycle with a lack of retarded release numbers could very well honestly be of a good benefit to an enterprise environment, in fact, and speaking of such, I wish features introduced 2 weeks ago would stop being plastered everywhere considering that well, FF ESR exists, SM exists, and places of education and enterprises even sometimes don't keep their Chrome installs entirely in sync with the latest versions...

(Semi-unrelated to this subject but the UK is no godsend for home network speeds: it's one of the worst in Europe. The only place you're getting anything above 45-50Mbps download speed is in education/business network connections, as for upload speeds, you'll be averaging about 20-30Mbps. It's laughable to the point 4G is often faster than a Wi-Fi network.

Funny how people from USA complain about their internet all the time when looking at speedtest.net threads on most forums they always get over 100Mbps+, what should they be complaining about? And I bet tomman doesn't even get 20Mbps download in the communist shithole he's in. Not that webcunts really care and will continue to develop for their own superfast connections and basically say 'fuck off' to the rest of the world.)
Posted on 22-02-18, 21:43 in Instant messaging (cr)apps (revision 2)
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Posted by tomman
- WhatsFuckingCrapp is still the fucking king in Soviet Venezuela. Now even banks, teloos, and the communist state of Maduro is pushing for its increased use for communications to customers/The People™. WHY. Why Meth hasn't been forced yet to forcibly disconnect Soviet Venezuela if we're THAT evil? Also, the network effect is so strong that, short of a complete blockade/shutdown, looks like it is impossible to break the addiction here!

It's the most popular here in the UK too. It's made funnier when people say 'fuck Facebook' and they migrate to WhatsArgh.

Posted by tomman
tl;dr: everything is terrible and it's only getting worse, because nobody gives a damn :/

Pretty much.

Posted by tomman
The difference between IE and Chrome is that IE was actually horrible and nobody liked coding for it, but Chrome appeals to the new generations of hipster webshit, so developers embrace it with tons of love. And broken Javascripts that somehow work there.

In other news, TIL Telegram has usernames

Lol yeah, exactly. That, and it's always been hip to shit on Microsoft, no matter if they did anything good, but it's always been hip to spunk over Google for some reason... Oh, don't get me started on polyfills that are only tested in Chrome when the entire fucking point of a polyfill is to supplement support for WebComponents (which is also a piece of shit anyway intended to slow down non-Blink browsers).

I'm also surprised you didn't know that. It's literally in the settings menu.

Posted by wertigon

FFS, the web is built on open standards (supposedly). By all means, recommend browsers but don't block the ones you do not support!

The W3C is just a front for Google at this point. Also, bad copypaste 'web designers' will be bad copypaste 'web designers' who want to cram loads of crap into a page to show off to their other 'web designer' mates on whatever the current trendy messaging service of the day is. :x

Thankfully it's not got to the point of blocking out even latest Gecko entirely and forcing Chrome as of yet on any website I've ever encountered except maybe MEGA (though lagging out anything that isn't latest Blink seems to be absolutely fine and in fact encouraged).

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Meanwhile, the rapid release cycle crap has created a reincarnation of the 'Opera 10' effect on user agent strings. Apparently some pretty big names such as Bethesda's site are breaking due to misreading 100 as 10.0, which is rather amusing.

(Speaking of Opera, gotta love how they were the only semi-major browser to give a shit about the standards, and now they're just generic CCP 'Chrome clone with extra crap tacked on top' browser, it's one of the bigger blows to the European software industry and the 'beginning of the end' imo)
Posted on 22-02-18, 21:44 in Mozilla, *sigh* (revision 1)
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Reminds me of this:

Posted by pigeonsnest.co.uk homepage

This website is not optimised for any particular browser. It's just standard HTML. Any browser should be able to cope with it.

Nor is it "optimised for mobile". It is up to the small number of mobile manufacturers to make their things work properly with what is there already; it is NOT for the millions of people who run websites to jump through hoops to work around the manufacturers' shit. Also, if anyone is dumb enough to try and read websites through a screen the size of a fucking postage stamp it's their own silly fault if they find it difficult: of course it bloody is, if you want it not to be then use something with a normal size bloody screen.
And it does not support HTTPS. Because there is no fucking point. This isn't a fucking bank or something. If your browser is whining at you about this site being "insecure" then just turn the stupid warning off; there isn't anything on this site to be "secure", and the warning is simply irrelevant bollocks.


The first line has been there for donkey's years, but the other part of it was added sometime last year. I don't know what browser he uses now but he was an Opera user during the Presto days.
Posted on 22-02-19, 05:26 in Windows 11 (revision 2)
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Posted by tomman
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In the meanwhile, large parts of Windows shell are now UWP aka bloaty web garbage:
https://twitter.com/violetasiii/status/1410507599376793601
Back when MS used to be good ol' evil M$, at least they shipped fast native applications, but I guess their highly capable C/C++ coders are retiring at a accelerated pace, and all they can find is webshit these days :/

It's funny because Microsoft 'Neptune' (prerelease of XP, one build leaked from December 1999 or so) had implemented a bunch of HTML application files for many of the new user interface elements. In fact IE6 can be installed on said build and it breaks the welcome screen :P

It and Windows ME also planned to have something called 'activity centres' which was never completed for either OS (again, all revolving around HTA stuff).

Heck, XP's user account panel was hardly changed between Neptune and the RTM XP if we're talking about the text strings; I believe it also relies on HTML applications for some of the core interface such as the welcome screen. Basically anything where the font rendering forces ClearType mode to ON if IE8 is installed all of a sudden is a tell-tale sign.
Posted on 22-02-21, 07:03 in Mozilla, *sigh* (revision 2)
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@tomman, what extensions are you using other than the aforementioned GitHub polyfill unfucker? I'm presuming JustOff's uBlock Origin port to FailMoon will work on SeaMonkey.

On a side note, I wonder if there's any chance somebody will revive the PPA for Ubuntu/Debian users. Would be nice for upgrading between new SM versions on those distros. :P
Posted on 22-02-21, 07:08 in Board feature requests/suggestions (revision 1)
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Very minor nag but wouldn't the breadcrumbs and header titles be better swapped around in the settings file?

Even in phpBB I think the default breadcrumbs title is 'Forum index' :p

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It's just, I try to limit how much I have to work with PHP so I'd rather not mess with the board code too much 😸

I mean, a ten years old codebase is probably not ideal, meow~ pet
Posted on 22-02-21, 15:14 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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True.

I've looked at ABXD's code though, and more specifically both the 2.x and 3.x lines. I wouldn't call it bad, but it's not the best thing in the world either.

That said I expect this fork of it has a lot more under the hood changes regarding the way the code itself is written and structured that isn't obvious.

I remember turning E_NOTICE on once when messing with an ABXD 2 board's code and the amount of "undefined index/variable" notices was... rather high to say the least. (3.0 is even worse in that regard, and is in quite a few ways a step back due to it basically just being an early alpha that was pushed out and "done" with).

Oh, unrelatedly, StapleButter should be Arisotura in the board footer.
Posted on 22-02-21, 15:28 in Doom 32x Resurrection
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Wonder what anyone here thinks about this, which came out some months back, with its latest version being 1.5 released 2 months ago.

I was so hyped when I found out about it, literally improves everything about the port to the ill-fated Sega add-on by essentially re-forking directly from the Jaguar port and then patching onto the original 32X ROM.

I didn't even mind the original port, it wasn't terrible (it did beat the Saturn, 3DO and SNES ones playability wise, and let's face it, who actually had a Jaguar or could realistically afford a 3DO at the time?) but was definitely rough around the edges. On the topic of the original 32X music, while "farty" and seemingly auto-arranged with a conversion tool explaining the weird pitch bends in E1M8, are still not much different to the OPL3 renditions IMO, though lacking that horrid clicking percussion.

Anyway, enough about the original. Many of the levels are restored from the original, extra screen resolutions and details can be chosen, an FM soundtrack (by SpoonyBard) which honestly blows any other version out of the water including the SC-55 originals in my opinion... and a particularly neat feature of this resurrected port is Mega-CD support which literally lets you load in tracks off the CD.

If I ever get a 32X this is why. Well, this and Virtua Racing Deluxe. I already own the original Doom release actually, which I bought a while ago.

(I believe this project also won an award in the Doom community and in the SEGA homebrew community.)

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6269/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCUKbNPT31g
Posted on 22-02-21, 23:53 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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Wasn't the last time I looked. Or maybe I'm just blind.
Posted on 22-02-21, 23:54 in Internet numbers bragging thread
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At least now I can brag I have managed to get post #6969.

I know, totally mature. Ha fucking ha.
Posted on 22-02-21, 23:58 in Mozilla, *sigh*
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That's useful, thanks! And yeah, bogging down the browser with add-ons for the UI is never a good idea, but everything here looks to be particularly useful.

(I firmly believe that ad blocking belongs to the network layer, not to the application layer, so that's why I run the equivalent of a PiHole on my routerbox)

Can something roughly equivalent be done via the HOSTS file, or is this a bad idea considering just how many subdomains they tend to use? I don't have the means of doing such a setup where I live. :P
Posted on 22-02-22, 10:16 in Internet numbers bragging thread
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I thought it was about just internet number bragging in general. (Not that I'm sharing my internet speeds because they're British and therefore are crap.)

Thanks though, onee-chan... snuggles up tight
Posted on 22-02-22, 10:18 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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Wasn't the last time I looked. Or maybe I'm just blind.

Or Kawa secretly snuck in a change while you weren't looking!

NO WAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!
Posted on 22-02-22, 10:22 in Doom 32x Resurrection
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Posted by CaptainJistuce
This is news to me. Neat to see this port getting the attention it honestly deserved, though.

Absolutely. The 32X port might have been rushed but what mattered was that it was playable and on something that cost much less than a PC at the time, and gave roughly the same kind of experience.

I'm also pretty sure it's the only piece of 32X homebrew/hacks that's actually optimised for 50Hz PAL systems too. There isn't much to compare it to, but you know, that's a bonus in itself.

(Also, unpopular opinion but I genuinely can't stand the SNES port's OST. The samples used are... eurgh, to say the least.)
Posted on 22-02-22, 10:34 in Upcoming game announcements/news (revision 1)
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Posted by tomman
$349,99. Oh, you DO live at Eurozone? That will be 349,99€ for you then!

PAL Moment.
The same bullshit happens in the UK too.

We still get shafted with release dates when it comes to weeb stuff too, unlike USA/Canada. Not that anyone cares where I am, or even really seems to know about it: majority of people I've spoke to my age don't even know about the constant maltreatment of the PAL region by both US and Japanese companies.

Of course, the only country in Europe that they like to give special treatment to is France.

(Anyone checked out the upcoming Neptunia game, "Sisters vs Sisters", a sequel to Mk2?)
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