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    Posted on 20-01-07, 00:48
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    Posted by sureanem
    I think there's a far simpler explanation, Occam's razor and all.
    An ambitious program of cost-cutting, outsourcing, and digitalization had already begun.


    What's the expression in English? Wise for a penny, stupid for a pound?

    "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" as I've heard it. And as I've heard it used, it describes the opposite situation, where someone is very thrifty and frugal on very inexpensive purchases, but very willing to just throw money at large expenses.

    Think of someone that just spent two grand to build a high-end gaming PC, then attached a shitty ten-dollar mouse because "gaming mice are too expensive"

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    Posted on 20-01-07, 01:19

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    Which sort of explains my dad's situation with the iMac I gave him for Christmas a few years ago. He prefers the shitty corded Dell mouse that came with the shitty Dell minitower he bought before I gave him that machine, to the slightly annoying and terribly not ergonomic Apple Magic Mouse that came with the iMac.
    Posted on 20-01-07, 05:11
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    Posted by kode54
    Which sort of explains my dad's situation with the iMac I gave him for Christmas a few years ago. He prefers the shitty corded Dell mouse that came with the shitty Dell minitower he bought before I gave him that machine, to the slightly annoying and terribly not ergonomic Apple Magic Mouse that came with the iMac.
    In fairness, an expensive mouse can still be shitty. Apple's proven that MANY times over the years.

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    Posted on 20-01-07, 06:40

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    But I absolutely love the touch scrolling, and some of the gestures. Linux hid_magicmouse comes close with some settings that are annoyingly non default, like scrolling acceleration, but is missing gesture support entirely. A git repository shows a patch to add those so it’s not just magic trackpads that have gestures, but apparently it’s not accepted into upstream.
    Posted on 20-01-07, 09:34
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    Posted by kode54
    But I absolutely love the touch scrolling, and some of the gestures.
    Obviously diffrent people value diffrent things. Otherwise there'd be exactly one mouse in the market.

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    Posted on 20-01-07, 13:03
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    Posted by kode54
    But I absolutely love the touch scrolling, and some of the gestures.
    Obviously diffrent people value diffrent things. Otherwise there'd be exactly one mouse in the market.

    Too bad the cellphone market won't understand that, otherwise I would already have a hi-end flip phone instead of $1K sealed-everything, portless glass slabs and $FREE-with-happy-meal lowend glass slabs.

    Speaking about Apple, at least they're being honest and upfront: everything on your cellphone DOES spy on you:
    https://apple.slashdot.org/story/20/01/06/1848248/iphone-update-reminds-users----again-and-again----of-being-tracked

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    Posted on 20-01-07, 17:11
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    Posted by CaptainJistuce
    "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" as I've heard it. And as I've heard it used, it describes the opposite situation, where someone is very thrifty and frugal on very inexpensive purchases, but very willing to just throw money at large expenses.

    Think of someone that just spent two grand to build a high-end gaming PC, then attached a shitty ten-dollar mouse because "gaming mice are too expensive"

    That would be it, thank you. The situation here is more like in the meme with the write-only memory or the Chinese steel guy: they reduce their costs for buying steel drastically, which is a huge win for the management, but they don't actually get any steel. So in a way they've saved money, but in a way they haven't.

    I'm sure there's a relevant Dilbert strip somewhere.

    I've heard "fictional reserve banking" used for a similar scenario, although it obviously doesn't apply here.
    Posted by kode54
    Which sort of explains my dad's situation with the iMac I gave him for Christmas a few years ago. He prefers the shitty corded Dell mouse that came with the shitty Dell minitower he bought before I gave him that machine, to the slightly annoying and terribly not ergonomic Apple Magic Mouse that came with the iMac.

    Your father is a man of taste. The standard mice work fine, are pleasant to use, and have no significant downsides, unlike the Apple mice which lack the right click button and feel deeply unpleasant to use. They're too heavy to click and the feedback feels mushy.
    (Fun fact: right click works as usual if you plug a standard mouse into a computer running Mac OS X)

    Posted by tomman
    Too bad the cellphone market won't understand that, otherwise I would already have a hi-end flip phone instead of $1K sealed-everything, portless glass slabs and $FREE-with-happy-meal lowend glass slabs.

    But would you pay $1K for a hi-end flip phone?

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    Posted on 20-01-08, 00:13

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    Posted by sureanem
    Your father is a man of taste. The standard mice work fine, are pleasant to use, and have no significant downsides, unlike the Apple mice which lack the right click button and feel deeply unpleasant to use. They're too heavy to click and the feedback feels mushy.
    (Fun fact: right click works as usual if you plug a standard mouse into a computer running Mac OS X)

    Hi, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It has a right click if you turn it on. On Linux, it even has a shitty middle click if you turn that on as well. It's not that useful for gaming, but it's plenty enough for common desktop usage.

    Conversely, it also absolutely requires a mouse mat, because Apple decided not to put skid pads on the skates, so they make godawful scraping noises on wooden or paper coated desks.

    It's okay, but the only feature I'd like in another mouse is the touch scrolling and page swiping gestures. Except now that I think about it, the touch surface is also sensitive, and I frequently rest my fingers on the mouse "button", which likes to trigger scrolling on me. So on second thought, I sort of like it, but sort of hate it, too.
    Posted on 20-01-08, 02:26 (revision 1)
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    Posted by kode54
    Hi, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It has a right click if you turn it on. On Linux, it even has a shitty middle click if you turn that on as well. It's not that useful for gaming, but it's plenty enough for common desktop usage.

    It has one physical button. How am I supposed to right click with it? And why would I want to use it with Linux?

    Conversely, it also absolutely requires a mouse mat, because Apple decided not to put skid pads on the skates, so they make godawful scraping noises on wooden or paper coated desks.

    Even with a mouse mat, it's unpleasant to use. It's too heavy, and you don't get a good grip on it since the sides are so thin. Add in the godawful mouse acceleration present on OS X by default, and you have a recipe for disaster.

    Why do nearly all OSes have such godawful mouse acceleration? Linux (X) does have a decent implementation, but being X it's buried deep in the settings.

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    Posted on 20-01-08, 04:52
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    Posted by sureanem
    It has one physical button. How am I supposed to right click with it?

    It has one microswitch, but a large touch-sensitive surface. If your finger is resting on the place where the right-mouse-button would be on a regular mouse, then when you click it registers as a right-click instead of an ordinary click.

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    Posted on 20-01-08, 08:19

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    Hence why I said the design is functional, even if not ideal for gaming.
    Posted on 20-01-08, 11:21
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    Posted by sureanem

    It has one physical button. How am I supposed to right click with it?
    Using the POWER OF YOUR MIND.

    And why would I want to use it with Linux?

    Because you're a masochist, I guess? I mean, you're already using Linux.

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    Posted on 20-01-11, 23:48 (revision 2)
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    Only in Soviet Venezuela: Incoherent Banknotes

    When your money is so fucking worthless, you, the local security printer, stop giving a damn about "specifications" and "quality control", and just print those worthless scraps of paper on whatever paper stock you got as fast as you can, nevermind the results. The Boeing of paper money!

    On the flip side of the coin (no pun intended), this is a fine example of a collector's nightmare: when "gotta catch 'em all" becomes an absurdly complex chore. Did you thought getting those elusive SNES ROM revision carts was a PITA? Now try finding every single interval issue variant for that pesky demonetized banknote! That's our Central Bank for you, ladies and gents of the bBoards.

    No, I'm nowhere near of getting a half-complete set (22 known intervals, plus all those "one odd out" notes - you could easily get up to 3 different variants on the same wad of 100 consecutive bills), if we strictly follow the interval ranges. And don't get me started with the replacement issues, which are basically unobtanium hell...

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    Posted on 20-01-11, 23:57
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    That's... impressively incompetent.

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    Posted on 20-01-12, 15:15 (revision 1)
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    That's equal to a $0.0015 (1/7 cents) bill, correct?

    If so, I can only hope you maxed out all the loans you could. Godspeed.

    Out of pure curiosity, without wishing to argue for or against any method of exchange or store of value, how is the Bitcoin-implied VESUSD exchange calculated if you can't trade BTCVES? DolarToday lists it, and there appear to be people offering both legs online. Is it just in Caracas or something?

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    Valor aprox. del paralelo en la ciudad de Caracas

    (Approx. parallel [black market] exchange rate in Caracas)

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    Posted on 20-01-12, 17:26
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    That's a 100.000 strong bolivar (VEF) banknote, equivalent to 1 sovereign bolivar (VES), so yeah, that's roughly fractions of a cent (1,2285012285e-05 says my calculator).

    Those notes were legal tender until December 5th, 2018 anyway, but I guess they could be featuring a comeback soon, as our current highest note (the 50000 VES one) is already fucking worthless (unless you have one of the few samples with collectors' value, like one of the ~6000 known replacement notes out of a ~40M -A40039096 is the highest SN I've seen so far, it's not even on the catalogs yet- population of circulating notes)

    While we're at Stupidville, here is your daily reminder to get your shit fixed for Y2K+:
    https://it.slashdot.org/story/20/01/12/0221226/this-years-y2k20-bug-came-directly-from-a-lazy-fix-to-the-y2k-bug

    Guys, COBOL is long dead, rewriting your gigabyte-long tables to upgrade from CHAR(2) to CHAR(4) has to be done eventually. Preferably before shit hits the fan!
    And in the case of 2K Games, the irony is so strong on all this...

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    Posted on 20-01-12, 21:56
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    Posted by tomman
    That's a 100.000 strong bolivar (VEF) banknote, equivalent to 1 sovereign bolivar (VES), so yeah, that's roughly fractions of a cent (1,2285012285e-05 says my calculator).

    Those notes were legal tender until December 5th, 2018 anyway, but I guess they could be featuring a comeback soon, as our current highest note (the 50000 VES one) is already fucking worthless (unless you have one of the few samples with collectors' value, like one of the ~6000 known replacement notes out of a ~40M -A40039096 is the highest SN I've seen so far, it's not even on the catalogs yet- population of circulating notes)

    In other words, those exchange rates are wrong, and it's 10x more worthless than we thought? 1/(1.23e-5) = 440'000 (USD/VES).

    50k VES is just north of our lowest legal tender coin (1 kr). Do you guys still use them or is it all denominated in hard currency?

    While we're at Stupidville, here is your daily reminder to get your shit fixed for Y2K+:
    https://it.slashdot.org/story/20/01/12/0221226/this-years-y2k20-bug-came-directly-from-a-lazy-fix-to-the-y2k-bug

    Don't see what's so wrong with it. Surely they can just expand it again? Not too much work to re-window to say 2060, when all of the people working on it will have retired.

    Guys, COBOL is long dead, rewriting your gigabyte-long tables to upgrade from CHAR(2) to CHAR(4) has to be done eventually. Preferably before shit hits the fan!

    I don't like how all the stuff has to be Unicode and 4-digit dates and ISO god-knows-what compliant. There's a beauty to keeping it simple: 7-bit text (for international users, ISO-8859 or classic 16-bit Unicode), 2-digit years, and 1 pixel = 1 pixel (no god-damned "virtual pixel" nonsense). Localization is UB.

    In a few short years, we won't have too much stuff left from the 1990s, so we can return to using 6-digit dates, as one should. Will be really beautiful and I look forward to it.

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    Posted on 20-01-12, 23:45 (revision 1)
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    :facepalm:

    You're neither an end user nor a coder that actually cares about doing things the right way in the real world.

    Reminds me the whole currency reconversion fiasco over here, where there are oh-so-many ways to lop all those extra zeroes, each one with its unique set of pitfalls (mostly rounding errors). It hurt me badly because the VEF->VES transition was done MID-MONTH, instead of the following January 1st (as it was done with VEB->VEF). Do you store all your amounts in VEF and convert them on the fly, by checking transaction dates and moving the decimal point accordingly? (BigDecimal is a godsend here!) Or store amount in whatever currency it was done, then enjoy hell when you're going to perform operations with mixed currencies? (because you now have to check transaction dates at EVERY CALCULATION STEP! Oh, and when you get SQL stored procs, things certainly become quite painful. I survived it, but I had to deal with the beancounters fallout until a few months ago...

    > 6-digit dates
    Fuck you.

    No sarcasm. Sorry, but windowing has to die. It solves nothing, and it only encourages lazyness. Sorry but you and me can't be on the same page here.

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    Posted on 20-01-13, 00:16
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    While we're at Stupidville, here is your daily reminder to get your shit fixed for Y2K+:
    https://it.slashdot.org/story/20/01/12/0221226/this-years-y2k20-bug-came-directly-from-a-lazy-fix-to-the-y2k-bug

    Don't see what's so wrong with it. Surely they can just expand it again? Not too much work to re-window to say 2060, when all of the people working on it will have retired.

    The problem is obvious. You're saying what they said in 2000. And, well, what they said when the original programmers wrote this stuff in the 1960s.



    I don't like how all the stuff has to be Unicode and 4-digit dates and ISO god-knows-what compliant. There's a beauty to keeping it simple: 7-bit text (for international users, ISO-8859 or classic 16-bit Unicode), 2-digit years, and 1 pixel = 1 pixel (no god-damned "virtual pixel" nonsense). Localization is UB.

    7-bit isn't even enough to encode a full set of punctuation alongside a full english alphabet and roman numeral set.
    2-digit years were a memory-saving hack that was relevant when we measured memory available in bytes, and has no place in the modern world.



    In a few short years, we won't have too much stuff left from the 1990s, so we can return to using 6-digit dates, as one should. Will be really beautiful and I look forward to it.
    Nope. These databases still contain data reaching back to 1960, sometimes for regulatory purposes.
    The past will never go away, and every computer program going forward needs to be able to handle dates from any point in computing history AT A MINIMUM.
    Also, two-digit years will break again in 2100, which is a single lifetime away. Three-digit years is a minimum requirement for any new software development.

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    Posted on 20-01-13, 00:29 (revision 2)
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    Windowing is a good solution, because it means you don't need to touch the data in the archives, but would need re-assessing the fix yearly - which no one ever did. Fixing it now means either moving the window, or maintaining three systems - one for pre y2k data, one for the windowed dates, and the system that uses a 64-bit integer timestamp that handles time-zones and leap-seconds.

    the WWE2K20 game is a code base from the PS1 era, if anyone was wondering why it happened.
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