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CaptainJistuce

Posted on 19-03-05, 08:26 (revision 1)

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Posted by Nicholas Steel
Have you considered adding support for Youtube embeds? When I use the [youtube] tags with just the tail end of the URL it restores the whole URL instead of embedding the video...

Hey!
That was my first request ever was to REMOVE that obnoxious anti-feature.

BTW, the little graph bars for poll threads are illegible on the "old metal" theme, as the first bar is black on a black background.

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Nicholas Steel

Posted on 19-03-05, 11:03 (revision 13)

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Posted by creaothceann
Wasn't it omitted because page loads would get very slow?

I... never had an issue with it on Byuu's forum and I'm using an ancient CPU (though with videos performance is largely dependent on the video card and the number of videos simultaneously playing).

The website you linked to only consumes 13% of my CPU and 3% of the GPU.

I've had issues with some websites when I had a Geforce 760 video card like:
* Horizon: Zero Dawn website Multiple Full HD and HD videos auto-playing in the background and can't be paused, 100% GPU utilization and very high CPU utilization. Edit: looks like they've changed it so there's only 1 background video.
* Break image galleries. Often consisted of a lot of auto-playing videos per page so you'd have to scroll through pausing them all if you wanted any to playback correctly. Break is now dead.
* Endless scrolling Joyreactor website design. they ditched that a few years ago.

but it's no longer an issue since I upgraded to the Geforce 1070Ti (and I have very high expectation that a Geforce 1050 (non-Ti) wouldn't break a sweat either). Also Youtube video embeds don't automatically play afaik so other than the time it takes to load video players there shouldn't be much if any performance nor network impact until you click Play?

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CaptainJistuce

Posted on 19-03-05, 11:04 (revision 1)

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Posted by Nicholas Steel

Posted by creaothceann
Wasn't it omitted because page loads would get very slow?
I... never had an issue with it on Byuu's forum and I'm using an ancient CPU (though with videos performance is largely dependent on the video card and the number of videos simultaneously playing).

I did, to the point that I tried to stay out of threads I knew people were embedding videos into(particularly when dicking about on my ~~smartphone~~ datacard). Even worse when the network is acting up and everything is slow.

This was discussed on page 1 of this thread.

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creaothceann

Posted on 19-03-05, 12:19

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Posted by Nicholas Steel
I... never had an issue with it on Byuu's forum and I'm using an ancient CPU (though with videos performance is largely dependent on the video card and the number of videos simultaneously playing).

The website you linked to only consumes 13% of my CPU and 3% of the GPU. [...] Youtube video embeds don't automatically play afaik so other than the time it takes to load video players there shouldn't be much if any performance nor network impact until you click Play?

It's the loading time that's an issue. A page like this takes a few seconds, utilizes all 4 cores of my work machine to at least 50% (and raises their temperature to 70°C, causing the fan to spin up).

My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10

tomman

Posted on 19-03-05, 13:00

Dinosaur

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Posted by Nicholas Steel

Posted by creaothceann
Wasn't it omitted because page loads would get very slow?
I... never had an issue with it on Byuu's forum and I'm using an ancient CPU (though with videos performance is largely dependent on the video card and the number of videos simultaneously playing).

The website you linked to only consumes 13% of my CPU and 3% of the GPU.

I've had issues with some websites when I had a Geforce 760 video card like:
* Horizon: Zero Dawn website Multiple Full HD and HD videos auto-playing in the background and can't be paused, 100% GPU utilization and very high CPU utilization. Edit: looks like they've changed it so there's only 1 background video.
* Break image galleries. Often consisted of a lot of auto-playing videos per page so you'd have to scroll through pausing them all if you wanted any to playback correctly. Break is now dead.
* Endless scrolling Joyreactor website design. they ditched that a few years ago.

but it's no longer an issue since I upgraded to the Geforce 1070Ti (and I have very high expectation that a Geforce 1050 (non-Ti) wouldn't break a sweat either). Also Youtube video embeds don't automatically play afaik so other than the time it takes to load video players there shouldn't be much if any performance nor network impact until you click Play?

"Works on my machine" is not a excuse for polluting pages with endless video embeds.
Also: bandwidth. So sorry but no.

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Duck Penis

Posted on 19-03-05, 16:33

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What about a compromise?
You make a page on this server entitled something like embed.php, taking a parameter ?v=XXXXXXXXXXX, where v is the youtube video ID.
This page has code something like this:


<a href="youtube.com/embed/XXXXXXXXXXX">
  <img src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/XXXXXXXXXXX/default.jpg" />
</a>

Then, posting a youtube link triggers the following, server-side
1) do GET to youtube to extract title
2) emit text as link to regular (non-embed) youtube, e.g. watch?v=
3) emit iframe to embed?v=XXXXXXXXXXX

If you click on the thumbnail, it gets embedded proper inside the iframe. Otherwise, it's just around 4kb/embed.

You could do all of this with JS, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be too popular. Likewise, you could proxy the embedded image to avoid leaking IPs to Google, but that's even more work. And the first two steps could be skipped, which would drastically reduce the work needed to implement.

Thoughts?

(You could also make embed.php fetch the title for you, but you'd end up making a lot of get requests unless you manage to cache it somehow)

Personally, I think youtube embeds are useless. If I'd want to watch something, I'd take the 0.2 seconds it takes to middle mouse click it and watch it in a new tab.

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-05, 20:40 Hi.
FMOD user Post: #156 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	Or, easier: ☑️ Enable Youtube embeds

tomman	Posted on 19-03-05, 20:44 Hi.
Dinosaur Post: #190 of 1321 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 20 hours Last view: 3 hours	Works for me™. And now the debate: opt-in or opt-out? Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-05, 21:42 Hi.
Large and In Charge Post: #157 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	Pfft, that's easy. In, of course!

CaptainJistuce	Posted on 19-03-08, 12:28 Hi.
Custom title here Post: #298 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 98 days Last view: 15 days	Posted by CaptainJistuce BTW, the little graph bars for poll threads are illegible on the "old metal" theme, as the first bar is black on a black background. I think this got lost in the Great YouTube Debate. --- In UTF-16, where available. ---

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-08, 15:28 Hi.
Random title! Post: #158 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	The default colors are the standard CGA, though one set has black and the other does not. This discrepancy should be gone now. The braces poll has its own custom bar colors, so I'd have to edit that in the DB to make it not black.

Duck Penis

Posted on 19-03-08, 16:15

Stirrer of Shit
Post: #74 of 717
Since: 01-26-19

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What's the point of exposing IPs on the "Online users" page? If you want to post, you either have to visit the thread or the login page. And any such visit exposes your UA+IP. By comparing the visit times ("guest with IP X browsed thread Y, then user Z opened that same thread"), it'd be trivial to get anyone's IP. Even if you don't browse as a guest but just go straight to the login page, you'd still show up on the logs.

I get it for bots, but why do it for humans if you don't do it when they're logged in? What about at least masking them, like masking "185.220.101.33" into "X.X.101.33" or ".101.33"?

Assuming it's even vaguely similar to that in the git repository, it'd be a very quick change to make in online.php:


if($showIPs) $guestList .= "<td>".formatIP($guest['ip'])."</td>";
//to (last 7)
if($showIPs) $guestList .= "<td>".substr(formatIP($guest['ip']), -7)."</td>";
//or (last two octets)
if($showIPs) $guestList .= "<td>".preg_replace("^([0-9]+\.){2}", "X.X.", formatIP($guest['ip']))."</td>";

(or just take them out altogether)

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-08, 21:42 Hi.
What do you mean, it's not a random title? Post: #160 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about 😏

CaptainJistuce	Posted on 19-03-08, 22:50 Hi.
Custom title here Post: #300 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 98 days Last view: 15 days	Posted by Kawa The default colors are the standard CGA, though one set has black and the other does not. This discrepancy should be gone now. The braces poll has its own custom bar colors, so I'd have to edit that in the DB to make it not black. Polls can have custom colors? The heck? --- In UTF-16, where available. ---

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-08, 23:01 Hi.
Better with Chocolate Post: #161 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	How would you explain the braces poll having grayscales while the PHP code clearly has CGA values?

CaptainJistuce	Posted on 19-03-09, 00:30 Hi.
Custom title here Post: #301 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 98 days Last view: 15 days	Defective graphics adapter? --- In UTF-16, where available. ---

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-09, 01:35 Hi.
You're really messing with my Zen thing, man Post: #162 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	Nice one, but the only graphical defect is that you didn't notice the color fields next to each option in the New Poll form.

CaptainJistuce	Posted on 19-03-09, 01:53 Hi.
Custom title here Post: #302 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 98 days Last view: 15 days	In fairness, I've never made a poll here. --- In UTF-16, where available. ---

Kawaoneechan	Posted on 19-03-09, 02:27 Hi.
The Brickshitter™ Post: #163 of 599 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 231 days Last view: 9 hours	In fairness, me neither.

Kakashi	Posted on 19-03-09, 02:31 Hi.
Post: #95 of 210 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 1911 days Last view: 1883 days	To be fair, I can't even be bothered making one.

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