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Posted on 19-01-29, 16:35 (revision 2)
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Posted by wareya
https://mozilla.github.io/FirefoxColor/
Thanks, but that seemingly doesn't let you assign different colours to each toolbar.

Posted by creaothceann
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
While I can see the merit in this, it's not for me.

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Posted on 19-01-29, 16:38

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Posted by Nicholas Steel
Posted by wareya
https://mozilla.github.io/FirefoxColor/
Thanks, but that seemingly doesn't let you assign different colours to each toolbar.

You can emulate it with a custom background image, which is why I linked the git version instead of the stable version.
Posted on 19-01-29, 18:48 (revision 11)
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Oooh okay Wareya, that's a definite improvement. I got 3 questions:

1) How do you colour the Tab Bar independent of other Toolbars (Custom Background only affects Menu Bar it seems)?
2) How do you adjust the colour of inactive tabs?

3) What is "Background Colour"? When I adjust it the background for that website changes but seemingly nothing in the Firefox UI changes...

Nevermind I've found info for adjusting the colour of inactive tabs, now to figure out how to adjust the colour of the Tab toolbar: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/732nr4/change_color_of_inactive_tabsurl_bar_in_ff57/

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Posted on 19-01-30, 03:28
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https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/al0t91/firefox_65_and_tab_bar_color/

its a bug, hopefully to be fixed.
Posted on 19-01-30, 21:37
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While you guys wait for Mozilla to take away your ability to paint your tab bars of any color you want (because "security" or "speed" or whatever lameass excuse their UXtards team shits tomorrow), Chrome is once again trying to pull a Mozilla (or should I call it a "reverse-Chrome" now?):

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/19/01/23/0048202/google-proposes-changes-to-chromium-browser-that-will-break-content-blocking-extensions-including-various-ad-blockers
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/19/01/24/1352246/chrome-api-update-will-kill-a-bunch-of-other-extensions-not-just-ad-blockers
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=896897

Basically, Google is coming up with a new version for the addons "manifest" format (that is, the file that tells the browser which features/APIs it needs to work), and in the initial drafts they're taking away functionality (because that's how software is developed in the cellphone era, that's why!), including core APIs to adblockers and script blockers. Your favorite adblocker? Dead in the water! Google claims the changes are needed for performance reasons, but why we should believe an advertising company anyway?

For now this is just a "proposal". For now.
And of course, Mozilla most likely will implement whatever Chrome does :/

In other (un)related news, a Microsoft just told Mozilla to give up and embrace the Chrome way.
I don't feel that I belong to this world anymore :/

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Posted on 19-01-31, 02:26
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's okay, tomman. We'll always have Dillo.
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And maybe enough interest in it to attract developers one day.

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Posted on 19-01-31, 06:10

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The more likely outcome is someone's business forking firefox after oxidization gets to sufficient levels.
Posted on 19-01-31, 08:37
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Posted by wareya
The more likely outcome is someone's business forking firefox after oxidization gets to sufficient levels.
Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll make Gecko something generally useful again instead of "Firefox proprietary core do not touch"



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Posted on 19-01-31, 08:51
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>oxidation

What do you mean? Removal of customization? Injecting Rust (*ahem* iron oxide) into the browser?
Posted on 19-01-31, 09:57

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Posted by jimbo1qaz
>oxidation

What do you mean? Removal of customization? Injecting Rust (*ahem* iron oxide) into the browser?


Replacement of core web engine components with modular ones written in rust. For example, Servo's CSS engine.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation#Completed
Posted on 19-01-31, 11:16
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Why does Mozilla keep making up programming languages, anyways?

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Posted on 19-01-31, 11:22
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First JavaScript, now Rust, when will it end?

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Posted on 19-01-31, 12:42
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Posted by Screwtape
First JavaScript, now Rust, when will it end?
I was thinking of XUL, actually. Which, in fairness, isn't really a programming language. I meant to pull a word out before I hit post, and failed.

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Posted on 19-01-31, 14:47
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Posted by CaptainJistuce
's okay, tomman. We'll always have Dillo.
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And maybe enough interest in it to attract developers one day.


Tell that to whatever is left from the Seamonkey team, which is now down to... what, four or five heads?

Oh, regarding SM: there is the current roadmap, according to recent blog posts, forum posts by frg, and Status Meeting notes:

- 2.49.5: Coming Soon™, once they figure out how to build it on the new build infrastructure. Supposedly it backports quite a bunch of security fixes from Gecko 60ESR (remember that 2.49 is currently based off Gecko 52ESR)

- 2.53: Based on the final XUL version of FF/Gecko (56), but while there are usable unofficial builds available, it's not going to be released as a major version. In fact, it's unclear to me if 2.53 is going to be released at all, given that it has some important regressions (for example l10n is broken, which means no localized versions are possible for that branch right now). If you don't mind sticking to en-US software, I've heard that the current unofficial builds for 2.53 are stable enough for using them as your daily driver, but for me, en-US software on es-WHATEVER hosts sticks like a sore thumb and so I don't even bother.

- 2.57: Currently a hodgepodge of XUL and post-XUL code (Gecko 60). Very broken (Mail&News doesn't work at all, among others), you should not use those except for brief testing. But all development is focusing right now on this branch, which most likely will be the final SM version (because there is no life for us thanks to the sorry state of later Gecko versions, product of many API removals, and even if you had a team of unlimited monkeys writing code, it would take a long time to undo the sabotage). The road ends here, and even then we're far away from anything resembling a beta-quality release :/

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Posted on 19-01-31, 20:25
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Posted by tomman
Posted by CaptainJistuce
's okay, tomman. We'll always have Dillo.
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And maybe enough interest in it to attract developers one day.


Tell that to whatever is left from the Seamonkey team, which is now down to... what, four or five heads?

Oh, regarding SM: there is the current roadmap, according to recent blog posts, forum posts by frg, and Status Meeting notes:

- 2.49.5: Coming Soon™, once they figure out how to build it on the new build infrastructure. Supposedly it backports quite a bunch of security fixes from Gecko 60ESR (remember that 2.49 is currently based off Gecko 52ESR)

- 2.53: Based on the final XUL version of FF/Gecko (56), but while there are usable unofficial builds available, it's not going to be released as a major version. In fact, it's unclear to me if 2.53 is going to be released at all, given that it has some important regressions (for example l10n is broken, which means no localized versions are possible for that branch right now). If you don't mind sticking to en-US software, I've heard that the current unofficial builds for 2.53 are stable enough for using them as your daily driver, but for me, en-US software on es-WHATEVER hosts sticks like a sore thumb and so I don't even bother.

- 2.57: Currently a hodgepodge of XUL and post-XUL code (Gecko 60). Very broken (Mail&News doesn't work at all, among others), you should not use those except for brief testing. But all development is focusing right now on this branch, which most likely will be the final SM version (because there is no life for us thanks to the sorry state of later Gecko versions, product of many API removals, and even if you had a team of unlimited monkeys writing code, it would take a long time to undo the sabotage). The road ends here, and even then we're far away from anything resembling a beta-quality release :/


What about Pale Moon? It's Gecko and it's still maintained.

Alternatively, what about Servo? I think you can run a stripped-down browser which is essentially just the engine and tab support. Like Midori but slightly better.

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Posted on 19-02-01, 02:48 (revision 1)
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Dunno if you ever read my posts about Pale Moon on the old board, but I refuse to use the product from a notorious asshole (Moonchild et al.) that gives yet another "my way or the highway" discourse when you dare using something he personally disapproves (PDF plugins -even if it is pdf.js-, NoScript) and that tries his hardest to tell You're Doing It Wrong™ and should change your ways to please his ideals. I left Firefox for the very same reasons!. Too bad, because otherwise Pale Moon would already be my main browser (with Seamonkey as a emergency backup), but when you can't trust the devs and their ideals, well... sorry, but no.

As for Servo, it seems no browser is built on top of it yet (Mozilla is only "borrowing" parts of it for Gecko for now), and in its current status isn't meant to be used by end users anyway. Also, be careful when mentioning the words "stripped-down browser" to me, as I would automatically interpret that as "Chrome-lookalike" and/or "minimalist UI", which are the main reasons of why I left Firefox in first place and why I'm deeply worried about the future of Seamonkey - once it's gone, it means my main door to the Internet will close forever (if the commies don't do it first with their forced blackouts!)

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Posted on 19-02-01, 03:57
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Posted by sureanem

What about Pale Moon? It's Gecko and it's still maintained.
Technically, it is a fork of Gecko now.
There are doubts the developer can keep backporting fixes to his fork. That's part of why Seamonkey hasn't just shifted to his fork of Gecko and is still trying to work with Mozilla's shitfest.

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Posted on 19-02-01, 12:17 (revision 1)

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Speak of the devil.

https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/calling-all-test-pilots-reference-browser-ready-for-testing/35433

>This is NOT a new end product, it is a collection of parts, some or all of which may be used to create web browsers for different platforms. But before we can use them, we need to make sure they all work together in one place.

>may be used to create web browsers

Of course, I'm concerned that this is mobile-focused, but just having more non-chromium browsers on mobile platforms would be a good thing.
Posted on 19-02-01, 16:11
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"It's not a new browser, except that it's actually a new browser, among other things".

I don't mind having a new rendering engine entering the contest - in fact we NEED more challengers!

But when "cellphones first" is the target, you already lost my interest. Also, how you deal with iThings, which are solely WebKit by design and by law? (Apple laws, that is!) This is also why those that consider Safari a "challenger" are delusional - it's the very same IE case (system preload, unremovable), but even worse (you have no choice in the case of iDevices).

Also... ugh, Discourse. Really, Mozilla?! You had to pick which is probably the WORST forum software package in earth? The one that actually triggers memory and CPU leaks every time I leave a post open for hours in a tab because Some Notorious Asshole thinks this is the future for the next 10 years!? *SIGH*

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Posted on 19-02-01, 16:54
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More like Disgust then, am I right?
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