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Posted by evazion
Should be working again, although unhiding hidden comments will still be broken on these browsers.

js: fix Javascript failures in Seamonkey/Palemoon.

Fix site Javascript failing to load in Seamonkey, Palemoon, and other
older browsers.

The @alpinejs/morph library uses public instance fields, which is ES2022
syntax not supported in older browsers. This is the code:

    var DomManager = class {
        el = void 0; // `el` is a public instance field
    }
    // => SyntaxError: bad method definition

The fix here is to separate the Alpine code into a separate bundle so
that a failure to load it doesn't cause the rest of the site's
Javascript to fail to load.

A better fix would be to either transpile the @alpinejs/morph library to
ES5 (which seems difficult to do in webpacker), or to fix the library
upstream to not use this syntax.

* https://inspiredwebdev.com/everything-new-in-es2022/
* https://blog.saeloun.com/2021/10/21/ecmacscript-public-instance-fields-and-private-instance-fields.html
* https://caniuse.com/?search=public%20class%20fields
* https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Classes/Public_class_fields#public_instance_fields

Posted by tomman


> ES2022

Yeeeeeeeah, nope. Not happening anytime soon on our "non-mainstream" (BUT NOT OLDER EITHER!) browsers.

Posted by tomman


While I'm glad Japan is finally leaving the 1997 web behind, the replacement is even more horrible (Googleisms and cellphones), and very un-Japanese to me.

Posted by CaptainJistuce
Personally, I wish more sites were stuck in 1997. Simple, practical, low-bandwidth designs that offer everything you need and nothing you don't.

/[\p{Lu}]/u

Posted by tomman
This is why we're getting more and more random sites breaking: since the Internet is now built over a pile of shitty JavaScript frameworks built over another pile of shitty JavaScript frameworks, you only need for one of their dependencies upstream to bring the Chromeisms™ (which have been decided by decree that no browser other than Holy Chrome™, its clones, and "latest Firefuxed" shall not be supported, EVER) to bring collapse to anyone deviating from The One True Browser, which is of course, Holy Chrome™:

https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/issues/19968

Posted by tomman
Aaaand.... Tobin finally snapped off and went nuclear!
http://web.archive.org/web/20220322141859/https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=28003
(archived link: the original thread now requires a login)
UPDATE: The official fallout: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28044

...and don't let the door hit your ass in your way out, asshole!

Wow, "frosty" isn't enough to describe the relationship between Tobin and Moonchild. This dude is not just toxic - he is RADIOACTIVE! No wonder why many people (including me) ran away as fast as we could from Pale Moon. But seriously, comparing the leader of your project with 4chanisms is low, even for you. Guess you won't be welcome on any other software project (be it FOSS or proprietary), EVER - Tobin's ego is as large as Moz://a's CEO salary, and that benefits noone. Oh, and be careful to who you trust your root credentials, as you WILL get royally fucked should things go the Putin way!

I'll stay with Team Seamonkey for my sanity, thanks.

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