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    Posted on 19-06-23, 09:06
    Secretly, I'm the Metaknight

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    And who still uses INI in this day and age?

    Besides me, I mean.
    Posted on 19-06-23, 09:20

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    Quiet, you OceanSimian.
    Posted on 19-06-23, 11:07
    Custom title here

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    I think Kawa's a terrestrial feline?

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    Posted on 19-06-23, 11:40
    I said, put the bunny back in the box!

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    I'm extra, you know that.
    Posted on 19-06-23, 13:27 (revision 1)

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    I must have gone back to the previous page and forgotten that I'd done that.
    Posted on 19-06-24, 06:11
    Full mod

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    Posted by sureanem
    under the assumption that people want to earn money and get ahead in life they'd do whatever (simplified) earned them the most money, which also ought to be the hardest thing.

    This is a hilariously bad assumption to make for all kinds of reasons, some of which you point out yourself.

    It's definitely a common assumption, and it probably even works out in > 50% of situations, but it's also the kind of assumption that causes heartache and strife for the people it's applied to, and confusion and frustration for the people who apply it without thinking too hard.

    As a general life rule, I try to avoid making generalisations about people, or at the very least keep in mind that generalisations are often wrong.

    I wouldn't think people feel more passion for web development than programming, if anything the other way around.

    If I've learned anything from my time on the Internet, there is nothing so obscure or commonplace that it doesn't have a community of enthusiasts. Would you believe there are people who spend their free time impersonating anthropomorphic cartoon animals? Or using modern technology to create new episodes of 60s sci-fi TV shows, slavishly recreating the look and feel of the originals? Or studying obsolete video-game hardware in excruciating detail?

    In comparison, web-development is one of the most rewarding technical things you can do - a little time investment, and you can make things 80% of the quality of most professional works and immediately show them off to all your non-technical friends all over the world. It's like like learning BASIC for the Sinclair Spectrum in the UK in 1982, but even better.

    Still, I don't get what actual shortcomings Windows XP has. Some minor security issues which don't actually matter, and they didn't bother porting DX12, but is there anything intrinsically wrong with it?

    What actual shortcomings does MS-DOS 1.0 have? Is there anything intrinsically wrong with it?

    (To skip to the end of this Socratic dialogue, not everybody has the same needs, but network effects mean people want their tools to be compatible with the tools other people use. Every tool must compromise between supporting a specific use-case, and being compatible with other tools. If you can afford to wall yourself off from the rest of the world and only use Windows XP, or only MS-DOS 1.0, or only flathead screwdrivers, then that's cool, but don't be surprised or angry that other people can't afford to do so, or choose to spend their resources in other ways.)

    The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
    Posted on 19-06-24, 06:58
    Custom title here

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    Posted by Screwtape
    It's like like learning BASIC for the Sinclair Spectrum in the UK in 1982, but even better.

    Mostly because you don't have to get near a Spectrum to do it.

    If you can afford to wall yourself off from the rest of the world and only use ... flathead screwdrivers, then that's cool, but don't be surprised or angry that other people can't afford to do so, or choose to spend their resources in other ways.

    Objection, because square driver is objectively the style you should be using.

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    Posted on 19-06-24, 07:35
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    Robertson drive, you mean! Give credit where it's due!

    The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
    Posted on 19-06-24, 10:52
    Custom title here

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    Posted by Screwtape
    Robertson drive, you mean! Give credit where it's due!

    I WILL NEVER BOW TO A CANADIAN! THAT IS ONE STEP REMOVED FROM SURRENDERING TO FRANCE!

    "The internal-wrenching square socket drive for screws (as well as the corresponding triangular socket drive) was conceived several decades before the Canadian P. L. Robertson invented the Robertson screw and screwdriver in 1908 and received patents in 1909 (Canada) and 1911 (U.S. Patent 1,003,657). An earlier patent covering both square-socket- and triangle-socket-drive wood screws, U.S. Patent 161,390, was issued to one Allan Cummings of New York City on March 30, 1875. "

    How about we call it the Cummings driver, since ROBERTSON IS A THIEF?

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    Posted on 19-06-25, 13:38 (revision 1)
    Stirrer of Shit
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    Posted by Screwtape
    This is a hilariously bad assumption to make for all kinds of reasons, some of which you point out yourself.

    It's definitely a common assumption, and it probably even works out in > 50% of situations, but it's also the kind of assumption that causes heartache and strife for the people it's applied to, and confusion and frustration for the people who apply it without thinking too hard.

    As a general life rule, I try to avoid making generalisations about people, or at the very least keep in mind that generalisations are often wrong.

    But about the group of workers?

    This is just me trying to argue for an anecdotal observation - the web developers I've met have indeed (in general) been less competent and passionate. Of course this doesn't go for all of them; if you'd model it mathematically I reckon you'd get two partially overlapping distributions with different averages, so that you could find a web developer who is better than a given programmer, but the web developers would still on average be worse than the programmers.

    If I've learned anything from my time on the Internet, there is nothing so obscure or commonplace that it doesn't have a community of enthusiasts. [...]

    In comparison, web-development is one of the most rewarding technical things you can do - a little time investment, and you can make things 80% of the quality of most professional works and immediately show them off to all your non-technical friends all over the world. It's like like learning BASIC for the Sinclair Spectrum in the UK in 1982, but even better.

    Do people do it for the results, though?
    Anecdotally, most programmers to some degree enjoy programming. They however surprisingly often don't care a whole lot about the practical utility/attention they can extract from their creations. Whereas, for web developers it would be the opposite if it is as you claim, no?

    What actual shortcomings does MS-DOS 1.0 have? Is there anything intrinsically wrong with it?

    (To skip to the end of this Socratic dialogue, not everybody has the same needs, but network effects mean people want their tools to be compatible with the tools other people use. Every tool must compromise between supporting a specific use-case, and being compatible with other tools. If you can afford to wall yourself off from the rest of the world and only use Windows XP, or only MS-DOS 1.0, or only flathead screwdrivers, then that's cool, but don't be surprised or angry that other people can't afford to do so, or choose to spend their resources in other ways.)

    MS-DOS lacks good graphics APIs, networking, and filesystems, for instance. This seems pretty intrinsic to me. I don't know what such flaws XP has. The security stuff is vastly overrated.

    But if it's a matter of network effects, then implying the downsides are intrinsic is not really accurate. My point was that sticking with XP would have been a good idea if everyone did it. (indeed, if I wish to do so unilaterally I can just download the ISO and go, no need to ask anyone else)

    Another advantage: With XP still alive, you'd have SOME underpowered netbooks (not just third world, but also kids and cheapskates) to which you'd have to adapt, whereas with Windows Vista developers could assume the computer is at least fast enough to run Vista, giving slower applications.

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-19, 22:18
    Stirrer of Shit
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    How to turn a "user freedom" advocate into an antifeature proponent with this one weird trick!

    HN discussion
    The top comment seems like bunk. They're not actually backing down, just saying it's voluntary to install. Still makes for a good headline though.

    Place your bets; what will happen first? Mozilla getting DNS over HTTPS shipping, or the third world countries doing MITM on a large enough scale that they declare it a supported use case?



    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-07-19, 23:53
    Dinosaur

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    Why bother MITM'ing connections if you can always do it Soviet Venezuela style: they simply let all of your connections die by plain resource starvation, without getting fixed, EVER.

    But hey, that won't help selling headlines to the baristas!

    Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™
    Posted on 19-07-21, 21:31
    Stirrer of Shit
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    Posted by tomman
    Why bother MITM'ing connections if you can always do it Soviet Venezuela style: they simply let all of your connections die by plain resource starvation, without getting fixed, EVER.

    But hey, that won't help selling headlines to the baristas!

    Sure, but some of us would like to have a functioning economy too, for which Internet access is a prerequisite in this day and age. Thus, China style.

    It's noteworthy in the sense that I want to see how Mozilla play this. "Second world dictatorship violates human rights" is about as much news as "Explosion in third world shithole, 100 dead," but their reaction will be interesting either way.

    Either they implement an antifeature or directly aid not only a second world dictatorship, but a certain type of second world dictatorship. And unlike in the case of China, which is considered hip and trendy in many circles, this is a former Soviet Union country, closely aligned with one which has been drawing a lot of ire over the past few years in many circles, and not only that but one which tramples on an in many circles adored and beloved security mechanism.

    Reading through the comments, one might note that the user who likes to express a certain kind of views has a peculiar writing style. While I'm not one to cast doubt on someone's intentions based on their nationality, it sure is an interesting pattern.



    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-08-15, 21:52
    Dinosaur

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    Meanwhile, at the Seamonkey HQ:

    https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/08/06/build-numero-deux/

    The release train is back on the rails. GO TEAM!

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    Posted on 19-08-16, 04:01

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    Yay!!!

    https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/08/16/build3-has-been-candidatized/
    Posted on 19-08-16, 07:01

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    Posted by sureanem
    It's noteworthy in the sense that I want to see how Mozilla play this. "Second world dictatorship violates human rights" is about as much news as "Explosion in third world shithole, 100 dead," but their reaction will be interesting either way.

    Either they implement an antifeature or directly aid not only a second world dictatorship, but a certain type of second world dictatorship. And unlike in the case of China, which is considered hip and trendy in many circles, this is a former Soviet Union country, closely aligned with one which has been drawing a lot of ire over the past few years in many circles, and not only that but one which tramples on an in many circles adored and beloved security mechanism.


    it's really disheartening to see the big tech companies like google working with china though not particularly surprising
    Posted on 19-08-17, 14:49
    Stirrer of Shit
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    He who pays calls the shots.

    What will be really interesting is when China uses the final bit of leverage they've been sitting on and tells Google/Facebook/Yahoo, okay, you get access to our market, but you have to abide by Chinese rules. Everywhere, not just for Chinese users. It would be super efficient for e.g. the HK protests and for improving the image of China abroad. And as we all know, private companies have the free speech rights to censor anyone for any reason whatsoever - a well established fact by now. In fact, they could even be sued by their shareholders for not doing so if the bribe was big enough.

    Obviously, they're a few years out from doing this - the Americans would just force them to not go along with it. But with the coming financial crisis, all bets are off.

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-08-23, 00:19
    Stirrer of Shit
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    Update

    Prediction was wrong.

    There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
    Posted on 19-08-23, 12:20 (revision 1)

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    We tend to edit our posts and add "EDIT:" before appending...well, everywhere.

    EDIT: Wait, I can post without being logged in? What's the point of that?
    Posted on 19-08-23, 12:58
    12 herbs and spices!

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    Posted by Kakashi
    Wait, I can post without being logged in? What's the point of that?
    It's an old traditional AcmlmBoard feature, don't question it.
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