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[quote="tomman" id="1070"]In 1998, I did got my first computer, dial-up wasn't even available nationwide yet (Internet was "this new cool thing from the USA!"), and we were still under the rule of the "trojan horse" government of Caldera (who was the man that set Chavez free, leading us into our current hell). Oh, and piracy over here was still in diapers. CD-Rs were the novelty (I still keep my very first batch of pirated software on 650MB gold Dysan CD-Rs with the infamous green dye, wonder if they're still readable...), and 1998 was the first year I had contact with something called "Winamp". And DOOM II. If you wanted to commit copyright infringement acts, you were pretty much limited to cassette tapes (which restricted you to music as computers were rare, yet new enough to not depend on tape drives), unless if you knew the right people (usually far away from small cities like mine) who could hook you up with those fancy, expensive CD-Rs full of cool shit. Movies? VHS or die. Although one of my uncles had Beta for whatever reason. Blockbuster was big in Venezuela, with all important cities having one (Caracas had like half a dozen or so), despite rampant piracy elsewhere (I do remember that one of my aunts ran her own video club, full of bootleg tapes... where you could see the true nature of VHS as a crap media). So... yeah, in 1998 we weren't even aware of the Internet in general. In 2018 noone gave a shit about their rights to public domain because it's natural to shit all over Disney precious IPs over here, and they can do nothing about it. The joys of being a 3rd-worlder, I guess.[/quote]
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[quote="tomman" id="1070"]In 1998, I did got my first computer, dial-up wasn't even available nationwide yet (Internet was "this new cool thing from the USA!"), and we were still under the rule of the "trojan horse" government of Caldera (who was the man that set Chavez free, leading us into our current hell).

Oh, and piracy over here was still in diapers. CD-Rs were the novelty (I still keep my very first batch of pirated software on 650MB gold Dysan CD-Rs with the infamous green dye, wonder if they're still readable...), and 1998 was the first year I had contact with something called "Winamp". And DOOM II. If you wanted to commit copyright infringement acts, you were pretty much limited to cassette tapes (which restricted you to music as computers were rare, yet new enough to not depend on tape drives), unless if you knew the right people (usually far away from small cities like mine) who could hook you up with those fancy, expensive CD-Rs full of cool shit.

Movies? VHS or die. Although one of my uncles had Beta for whatever reason. Blockbuster was big in Venezuela, with all important cities having one (Caracas had like half a dozen or so), despite rampant piracy elsewhere (I do remember that one of my aunts ran her own video club, full of bootleg tapes... where you could see the true nature of VHS as a crap media).

So... yeah, in 1998 we weren't even aware of the Internet in general. In 2018 noone gave a shit about their rights to public domain because it's natural to shit all over Disney precious IPs over here, and they can do nothing about it. The joys of being a 3rd-worlder, I guess.[/quote]

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Vladiskov is missing	Posted by tomman Oh yeah i remember the early 2000's buying spree, the main cableco on my city got depromoted to a shitty local tv channel when inter bough it, although its the only place you can get quality 90's cartoons nowadays. And yes, the point of this is, dont even try to play online, its shitty. changing back to the Thread suject, how long before starwars have to go Mickey to survive?
tomman	Posted by Vladiskovwashere Posted by tomman what he said all telco companies are shitty, the shittiest one its obviusly the goverment one, but the private ones are shitty too, mostly due to the fact they can get any money out of it other than for survival in site, if something on the outside its demaged or stole (mostly these cable black boxes on the posts) they can literally take decades to fix it (unless you pay up to 100$) and still asking you to pay every month without mix Momento!, supercable aun existe? Cable coverage here is weird. Unlike USA, monopolies are uncommon: you usually have two choices on most cities, and it's only at very small towns (think remote rural places) where you have no choice but the incumbent cableco (usually those places still run their rudimentary cable providers, where the concept of Community Antenna TV is still kickin' alive, now with Telemundo telenovelas on top!). Supercable footprint is non-existing outside largest cities (i.e. Caracas, Puerto La Cruz, Puerto Ordaz), while Inter tends to cover the rest of the country rather well thanks to their local mom-and-pop cableco buying spree in the late '90s (that's how they entered my city in 1997, by acquiring the two local cable providers). If you're at the west/center, your options are usually Inter/SC/NetUno (pick any two). East/South? Swap NetUno with Planet Cable. ...and then, you always have satellite, which ate the cable subscriber base for breakfast: once DirecTV started offering prepaid services, cablecos started bleeding consumers (this is why now Inter offers sat service too. Hell, even CANTV does sat TV now... if all you want to watch is communist propaganda and -if you're lucky- Discovery Channel). But then, satellite is useless for data services unless you're Big Oil or a bank. And even if you can afford it, it will still be a miserable experience (one of my banks was unable to get any kind of wired service when they opened their local branch 4 years ago, so they have to deal with a utterly shitty sat provider whose uptime has as many nines as Cirno's IQ - even their sole ATM works over satellite IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEDIUM-SIZED CITY!)
Vladiskov is missing	Posted by tomman what he said all telco companies are shitty, the shittiest one its obviusly the goverment one, but the private ones are shitty too, mostly due to the fact they can get any money out of it other than for survival in site, if something on the outside its demaged or stole (mostly these cable black boxes on the posts) they can literally take decades to fix it (unless you pay up to 100$) and still asking you to pay every month without mix Momento!, supercable aun existe?
tomman	Broadband didn't became a thing over here until 2001, and even then most places of the country didn't got upgraded until 2004 at the earliest, mainly due to technical reasons (our late-70s legacy analog phone centrals being the #1 reason: DSL required a digital backend or something like that). 256/128k was the most common service plan, with the 1M/256k being reserved for the elite. But back then CANTV wasn't the socialist shithole it became in 2007 when it was forcibly renationalized (it was just a shitty telco - their billing department was a unholy mess, but you didn't had to wait 5 years to get your phone service fixed when it failed). Even today, 10M/768K is the fastest plan they offer... but very few can actually reach HALF of those speeds. For most, the realistic limit is at 3M/768K, assuming your wiring is spotless. The competition is a joke: Cable? There is Inter, that offers a 20M connection... capped to hell and back, and with substandard performance at best (the electronics deep fryer still comes for free), and it's not available for most subscribers (In other cities, replace "Inter" with "Supercable" - same junk, different badge). And don't get me started with LOLwireless... might as well deploy IP over avian carriers :D
moochmcgee	Damn tomman, that's pretty late to be getting prepaid dial-up. I live in the US, and I had 10mbps broadband cable internet in 2003ish. It was also a business line lol.
tomman	Posted by Vladiskovwashere Posted by tomman Im an early cantv user, please kill me (i know you get the joke ;D ) i remember the dial up services from the early 00's, it were just shity and costly (bs500 unica pre-paid code card, you could spend that on a complete breakfast at school. with everything an a snack) for something like half a hour of -256kb dialup speed, prior to that we once conected up with a bbs on the late '98 (international fare lol, we downloaded lots of hacking manuals and books we never really read) Fact: I got connected to THE WORLD in 2001. It wasn't because $MOM considered "hey, there is this cool tech thing that could be very worthy for your education!!!". No, rather it was CANTV doing a national Internet tour around schools, setting up prepaid dialup accounts for students, and demoing connections with those fancy white boxes full of blinking lights (known as "mo-dems"). For a VEB 5000 fee, you got your very own dialup account, complete with a free email account (which I used until late '18 when even those stopped working), and a bag with a self-setup CD-ROM (containing CANTV-branded IE4/5 installers for both Mac and Windows). Plus your 5000 classic bolivars would buy you THREE HOURS of unlimited access! (for our next top-up, a Bs. 5000 card would buy 3 days, while a full week required a Bs. 10000 card, and that was quite a lot of money for a high school student back then!). Weeks later, I was hooked at home, and after blowing some cash in those goddamned prepaid cards, Mom just called CANTV and subscribed our line to a unlimited dialup connection (and a couple months later later, to a flat-rate voice service, after getting the surprise of her life when the phone bills arrived....) Fun fact: When some of the CANTV course tutors tried to login with their corporate-issued accounts, their modems rebounded them, HARD. But our freshly-created accounts were good enough for being accepted into TEH INTERWEBZ of the early XXIth century! Of course, the first account they tried was mine. My 3 complimentary hours? GONE with the wind~~~ But hey, I can remember the very first website I visited from those Win95 boxes running IE4: Pokemon.com :D
Vladiskov is missing	Posted by tomman Im an early cantv user, please kill me (i know you get the joke ;D ) i remember the dial up services from the early 00's, it were just shity and costly (bs500 unica pre-paid code card, you could spend that on a complete breakfast at school. with everything an a snack) for something like half a hour of -256kb dialup speed, prior to that we once conected up with a bbs on the late '98 (international fare lol, we downloaded lots of hacking manuals and books we never really read) On the point of this post: yesh, we can use it to make memes yet? i mean, steam willy driving the titanic (with dysney name on it) to an iceberg with the face of the red headed feminazi girl meme gonna be a reality? Also, the Third world Shield Is the main rason why there are soo many russian piracy groups.
Nicholas Steel	This topic is stubbornly not getting marked as read after viewing it and scrolling to the bottom. That is, until I made this post within the topic.
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CaptainJistuce	Posted by tomman and 1998 was the first year I had contact with something called "Winamp". Did it whip the llama's ass in your part of the world too?
Kakashi	Away with you! We're making fun of Australia, not harping on about real-world problems!
tomman	In 1998, I did got my first computer, dial-up wasn't even available nationwide yet (Internet was "this new cool thing from the USA!"), and we were still under the rule of the "trojan horse" government of Caldera (who was the man that set Chavez free, leading us into our current hell). Oh, and piracy over here was still in diapers. CD-Rs were the novelty (I still keep my very first batch of pirated software on 650MB gold Dysan CD-Rs with the infamous green dye, wonder if they're still readable...), and 1998 was the first year I had contact with something called "Winamp". And DOOM II. If you wanted to commit copyright infringement acts, you were pretty much limited to cassette tapes (which restricted you to music as computers were rare, yet new enough to not depend on tape drives), unless if you knew the right people (usually far away from small cities like mine) who could hook you up with those fancy, expensive CD-Rs full of cool shit. Movies? VHS or die. Although one of my uncles had Beta for whatever reason. Blockbuster was big in Venezuela, with all important cities having one (Caracas had like half a dozen or so), despite rampant piracy elsewhere (I do remember that one of my aunts ran her own video club, full of bootleg tapes... where you could see the true nature of VHS as a crap media). So... yeah, in 1998 we weren't even aware of the Internet in general. In 2018 noone gave a shit about their rights to public domain because it's natural to shit all over Disney precious IPs over here, and they can do nothing about it. The joys of being a 3rd-worlder, I guess.
CaptainJistuce	In AD 20XX, Australia was mostly shit.
Kakashi	In 2018, Australia was mostly shitty speed....anything.
Nicholas Steel	In 1998 Australia was still mostly Dial-up internet.
CaptainJistuce	It is definitely a diffrent world than it was in 98. And we've been pissed about the DMCA since it was signed, so... definitely would've seen an imperial butt-ton of pushback.
Screwtape	Posted by CaptainJistuce I am pleasantly surprised that no one deployed the lobbyists to get the sunset date bumped back again(or altered into an eternal copyright). SUCK IT, SONNY BONO AND MICKEY MOUSE! I've heard the theory that since the last time the copyright period was extended, copyright lobbyists saw the amount of energy that was directed against things like SOPA, and the whole mess around net neutrality, and decided not to pick that particular fight. I hope that's true, but I really have no idea.
wareya	Posted by Nicholas Steel Posted by Covarr Truth be told, I think there's more profit to be had there than in Steamboat Willie at this point. Unless someone has been time traveling, that's always been the case though? Kingdom Hearts 2 has a steamboat willie tie-in. Its Mickey has gloves etc though.
Nicholas Steel	Posted by Covarr Truth be told, I think there's more profit to be had there than in Steamboat Willie at this point. Unless someone has been time traveling, that's always been the case though?

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