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Posted on 19-05-26, 19:24 in Something about cheese!
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Post: #321 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by wareya What's the difference? 2) Being run by non-profit or not-for-profit organizations is completely meaningless. In fact you can assume that if something like this is run by a not-for-profit or non-profit organization, then it's going to be more corrupt than if it were privately- or government- run. I don't know. They're sure a lot less corrupt than the people in the video talbain posted. Selling data seems like a non-issue (it's public record where I live anyway), and the other stuff doesn't really pertain to the SAT. The military definitely should have access to that kind of stuff anyway, if anything it's a travesty they have to pay for it. But more importantly, this doesn't really have anything to do with the predictive validity of the test. It could be run by the Russian mafia for all I care, and it would still be a reliable and accurate test. I've yet to see any substantive criticism against it. People like to throw around words like 'biased against minorities' and 'test prep', but it's all a giant fraud, probably intended to strong-arm colleges into switching over to essays or "adversity scores". There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-26, 19:54 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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Post: #322 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by Screwtape Hey look, it's that suggestion I made a while back so the images don't overflow. Who'd have thought there could be unforeseen consequences to applying a rule for every image on the entire page? Probably it's easier to override it for icons than try and specifically apply it to all user-supplied img tags, because they can show up pretty much anywhere (pm, profile, preview, thread, and probably ten more edge cases): There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-27, 10:18 in I still HATE smartdevices
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Post: #323 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
HP and Garmin are as American as apple pie, and they both make smartphones every now and then. According to Wikipedia, there are also some other obscure brands I've never heard of, like BLU ("the first Latin-owned mobile phone manufacturer aimed at a Latin population"), Firefly ("a cellphone aimed at parents to give to their children aged 5–12 years"), and a few more too obscure to even have a Wikipedia page. I suppose I don't get it. How would smartphones for "a Latin population" be different from those aimed at any other? Fine if they're aimed for the local markets, but in America? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-27, 11:00 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #324 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Hmm, you only need email verification to post stuff, which is disgusting in and of itself, but I guess it's okay. Typing asdasd@gmail.com (imagine the poor guy who owns that email) in all fields and furiously clicking "skip" is not really that much effort. In an ideal world, people would be running their own git front-end instances. In a realistic world, at least they could have the sense not to delete criticism, and Git could stop interfering in projects' internal affairs. Even inane criticism/death threats still reflects a dissatisfaction with your actions and should be taken seriously, if not at face value. The quotes are out of context - "GNOME's a horrible joke of a desktop" in the context of asking them to not bother users of other DE's, "Gnome standard theme is horrible" in the context of not forcing people to use it, and "Come up with a SANE theme API and we'll talk" in response to GNOME inching towards removing theming support. I'd definitely argue they're constructive. A non-constructive comment would contain only the first or second quote, and then a few curse words and/or personal attacks against the author(s). I don't know what kind of theme engine you use. If I open my xfce settings right now and select random styles, none of them make any mess. Some of them look butt-ugly, sure, but that's par for the course. It's definitely possible you could make a theme that broke everything, but that can be dealt with in accordance with the old adage "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". No need to prohibit it explicitly. So either, GNOME's theming engine is horribly broken (wouldn't know, never used it), or the real concern is as they say: "Changing an app’s icon denies the developer the possibility to control their brand." I really don't like the soulless approach of "contribute to FOSS projects because it looks good on your resumé". Clearly, the goal is to increase the amount of such developers, but it causes lots of trouble for everyone else. I don't think contributions from people looking to pad their CVs are that great in number anyway, just like nobody would edit Wikipedia for that purpose. In other words, the only reason you'd want to do it is to "attract new developers," which is code-word for something else, that so far has never been shown to give any value to anyone whatsoever, except possibly for said "new developers". There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-27, 14:31 in I still HATE smartdevices
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Post: #325 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
I get why you could make one and target it for the South American market. That makes sense. But why the whole ethnic minority thing? Wouldn't it make more sense to move your headquarters to Mexico or something? HP did actually support the Elite X3 "until 2019," so they might keep the title a little longer. Akyumen is a "Silicon Valley startup," and they do have some kind of unique hardware, and Sonim seems to be a legitimate company. Although I'm sure they're still made in China, like everything else. CAT might count too, although they're strictly speaking British. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-27, 15:12 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #326 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by Screwtape All of the above, of course. The peanut gallery speaks in tongues. Perhaps there's different factions who each have different concerns, but how many people are in each faction? What if different factions disagree with each other as well as with you? Well, then you listen to them and see if any of them have reasonable opinions. I mean, you'd have to read through them to censor them anyway, and after you've done that there isn't really much of a point to deleting them. Also, I've never seen this happen in real life. This is the first time I've seen a project run by people with so thin skin that they had to delete any and all criticism of them (except for projects run by legit insane people, but not even all of them). Other, serious, projects just have a few issues for it and if the discussion gets too inane they just lock it to contributors/stop reading it. Even madmen projects like TempleOS got their fair share of positive feedback, despite even the author agreeing that the practical utility was absolutely zero. So I'd have to say I doubt the practical value of echo chambers. There *is* positive information content in such comments, but I would estimate their total worth as: Huh, what do you mean? They only have a value if they get deleted? The point is that there's a conflict between the idea of theming, which requires a rigidly-defined list of standard widgets, and the idea that application authors should be allowed to customise widgets or invent new ones if they think it's appropriate. The design of GNOME's desktop (or any desktop) or GNOME's default theme (or any theme) or GNOME's theme API (or any theme API) are not relevant to the discussion, because this conflict has affected every desktop based on every GUI toolkit. It is, though. If GNOME would have a default theme designed by, say, God, that everyone found completely perfect there would be no need to have theming support at all. If the default theme was something like the default iOS or Mac OS X theme, people would find it acceptable. And if the default theme was butt-ugly, it would be imperative to have theming support. So of course it plays a role. "We want theming support because X" is a fundamentally stronger position than "We want theming support". And likewise, "we don't want theming support because the API doesn't support creating applications that theme consistently" is a stronger position than "we don't want theming support because 'brand damage'" My personal position is that authors ought to be able to ship whatever they want and end users ought to be able to do whatever they want with it. If I'd write GUI software I'd probably opt for something that always looked native (like hiro/libui/Tk) or something that had virtually no modes of failure (nuklear/imgui). I think even without theming, it's a good idea to have a rigidly defined set of widgets for consistency. I don't want to have to guess at what stuff does, that is the whole point of GUIs. >The actual claim is that certain Linux distros are shipping with a non-Adwaita theme that breaks third-party applications in various subtle ways. Sure, end-users can set up whatever crazy theme they like, and if they break things they get to keep both pieces, but Linux distros should be more responsible than that. If you'd written application and got regular "bug" reports from users of Distro X because of Distro X's custom theme, you'd be annoyed too. Which makes sense, but ultimately it's the developers' fault. It's like making an application for en-US Windows 7 on 1920x1080x24 that breaks horribly on anything else, claiming it's the standard (which it is), and then claiming that using it on anything else is UB. Which would be a reasonable position to take, but then you should standardize on something reasonable and universal and not a specific GNOME theme. I'm guessing that the distros' default themes aren't exactly crazy, just making shoddy applications look a bit wonkier than on the dev's machine. On sane DEs like Xfce, I have zero issues of this kind, which makes me think the real issue is that they don't want users to be able to "damage" their precious branding. I mean, they had to dig out absurd strawmen for their website, so I'd wager there's an about 70% chance they have some ulterior motive that isn't exactly "getting less bug reports". There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-27, 19:53 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #327 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Agreed. What themes I use has absolutely no bearing on Telegram Desktop, which looks like a bigger version of the Android app no matter what my settings are. This goes for all the minimalist GUI toolkits like nuklear and imgui too. If they're so concerned about There's absolutely no need to start whining about this, when you could just not implement the feature if it breaks your obscure widgets. Another tangentially related gripe I have is the constant localization of everything. You're installing, forget to set the language to English, and suddenly you're getting a disgusting mix of English and the local language. e.g. "Would you like to save?": "Да"/"Нет" And that's not getting into whenever websites/smartphone apps feel like it would be better to give you poorly Google Translated content instead of regular English content, although that's not so common anymore. Except for Android apps, which get compulsively "localized". Unicode was a mistake, and it just keeps getting worse and worse (emoji, RTL, Chinese characters breaking BMP). The Europeans already had ISO 8859-1, the Russians KOI8-R, and for the web there was HTML entities. Since everyone who uses the Internet speaks English anyway, computer localization is just a waste of time and money and unpleasant for generally everybody. It would be far easier if you knew that everything everywhere would be en-US, no surprises. Windows is a notable exception. That's actually very well done. I wouldn't use non-English Windows for the aforementioned reasons, but the OS itself sounds completely natural. I can't remember a single time I have ever had any use for "localized" software, I can remember dozens of times it has been awkward to use. Oftentimes it just seems completely incomprehensible why anyone would even want to localize software. For instance, Microsoft localizing Windows into Simplified Chinese. Why? Them supporting China has resulted in a net gain of $0 and a net loss of whatever they lost from them going postal at them after they dropped XP. /rant There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-28, 10:32 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #328 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by tomman Emoji is not _that_ bad. Far worse are RTL languages. For instance, this sentence is completely incomprehensible because of a stray U+202e. It's completely pointless. What share of Arabs have computers? Probably the same share as speak English anyway. Couldn't they at least have gone with a compromise? Implement the Arabic alphabet, but LTR, and then their input methods could transform it. e.g. instead of "بسم الله", Bismillah, write "هللا مسب", which is the exact same text but now works normally in a text editor. It's a moot point since for informal purposes they'd just use ad-hoc transcription, and for formal purposes HTML entities/Office internal representation would do just fine. Fuck you. I'm not saying en-US is the only locale, I'm saying it should be, and that using anything else should be UB. If people would settle on one platform (e.g. Windows 7 1080p en-US), software would be much more reliable. Localization is to introduce very painful edge cases out of a misguided sense of political correctness. If your software is intended for a GLOBAL audience (like any serious non-CLI application should be), it MUST be localized. No "ifs", no "buts". If you intend that I interact with your user interface everyday, it must speak the same language as me - computers are intended to serve my needs, not the reverse! I say this as someone that has actually contributed localizations for several open source and proprietary applications in the past. But who exactly is this global audience? I mean, are you trying to make the case that you don't speak English? I'd have a hard time believing you. Basically everyone in the first world (with the notable exception of Japan) speaks English. It's just a nuisance. Look at all the locale shit, timezones, etc in your install of Linux. It's an endless source of pain, causing lots of bloat in all the C libraries dumb enough to implement it. And it doesn't work, either. You still need to speak English to operate a computer. So why bother? What do you mean by text editors? I use vim, and I've never felt it would be any better if it were localized. LibreOffice can have separate UI and content languages. I have the UI set to English and the content to whatever the document I'm editing is in. Never bothered me. However, I can be pretty sure the translation of LibreOffice (if there even is one) is utter rubbish. Posted by CaptainJistuce And we don't have these anymore, since we realized that everyone speaks English anyway. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-28, 12:30 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #329 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
No, I'm not trolling. Sure, people who don't speak English can "operate" computers, but so can most four-year-olds, simply by virtue of memorizing the positions of the buttons they want to press in the games they like to play. It's actually quite impressive. I saw someone of around that age playing some iPhone game - don't remember which - and it was in Italian or something like that. And I asked, "wow, does he speak Italian?" (I don't live in Italy). No, they replied, he's just accidentally set it to that. For anything advanced you still need to actually speak English. Even with perfect localization of everything, the resources online in your native language are extremely limited if they even exist, depriving you of the ability to use Google efficiently. Can't even imagine using localized GCC/Visual Studio/Clang. What do you do, translate the error messages in your head into English before searching for them? And this is somehow easier than using normal software? No, localization is as ass-backward as using comma signs as thousand separators (for decimals they're fine, as are periods), some obscure m/d/yy format that has you guessing at whether it's the fourth of January or the first of April, or DST. It all needs to die, and it never will. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-28, 15:40 in I still HATE smartdevices
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Post: #331 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by tomman Ah, now that's what I call quality software. What a shame updates ruin it again, though. Jokes aside, isn't this just because shipping with localizations for every language would make for a huge APK file? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-28, 19:57 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps" (revision 1)
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Post: #330 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by tomman I'm not even English, but it is empirically true it is the only language that matters (other than Russian or Chinese, possibly). I have nothing against subs/dubs, although I've never watched a dubbed movie/TV show that wasn't a children's cartoon in my entire life, and I'd only watch something subtitled in my native language in the cinema - why spend several hours looking for poorly translated subtitles on shady websites, when I can just use the ordinary English subtitles made by competent translators? But this is just a personal opinion. Nothing wrong with translating movies into Swahili, as long as I'm not the one paying for it. What I however DO have something against is the completely pointless localization of stuff that gets shoved down your throat. FWIW, I distinctly remember the Visual Studio we used in school as being in English while the rest of the OS wasn't. Maybe they had the good sense to change it back, or Microsoft had the good sense to not burn cash on translating it, but anyhow that was in good ol' American English, as all software should be. Other Englishes are fine too, and I can hardly tell the difference anyway. I never liked those numeric pragmas. I might be clinically insane, but it's a hell of a lot clearer, at least to me, to figure out what "#define _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS" means than to guess at the meaning of "#pragma warning(disable: 4996)". Specifically for programming languages, why would you want them? You have to understand English anyway, since that's what the keywords are in, and even if you have mnemonics for those all the library functions will be in English, at least in theory. (strncpy isn't really English, but nor is it not English, and it certainly isn't some other language). At least they could just put one define for each language. It's still easier to figure out the meaning of _CRT_SEGURO_NO_ADVERTENCIAS than 4996. I suppose it's a shame if there are collisions. They'd have to tell their translators to not do that, or namespace the foreign strings, yielding something baroque like _ES_CRT_SEGURO_NO_ADVERTENCIAS. Still better than 4996. In fact, I would prefer it if they picked a language completely at random, even if it weren't English, and replaced the numeric warnings with that. At least you can memorize the meaning of _CRT_SALAMA_HAKUNA_ONYO, and you already got one of the three words down if you watched the Lion King as a child, which is more than you can say for 4996. EDIT: Nope, Microsoft just didn't bother translating Visual Studio (or at least not VS code, but should be the same) into my language. They did translate the website, and it's absolutely atrocious. It's not grammatically incorrect, but whoever did it is not a talented translator, that's for sure. Extremely odd phrasings which would make sense in English, sprinkled with somewhat archaic formalities. In their defense, the English version is not much better: Stay on top of the details as you move your project forward, with new debugging improvements including Autos, Locals, and Watch window search, better performance, and a Collections visualizer. drive code maintainability and fix errors, warnings, and suggestions with one-click code clean-up and new refactoring capabilities. A document health indicator will help you identify issues, so you can get your code “to green.” How many errors can you find in the above passage? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-28, 23:27 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #332 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
At least you can try and find out what a frobolator combustor is by means of arcane Google queries. No such dice for 8C09000F. Assuming they prioritize marketing drivel above actual software (probable) the translation of the software would be even worse than that of the marketing drivel. Except for no-name no-budget China products, where I have no expectations whatsoever, I do expect for my software to have competently written text. I'm not demanding any eloquent prose, and if you can cut the message in half by playing fast and loose with the grammar that's fine ("load file %s failed: disk error"), but it angers and disgusts me to see "translations" where it's apparent the "translator"'s idea of "good" is "you can understand it, so what's the problem?". I do speak English, so there is no need to pretend I don't and give me a watered-down version of the product. And since all educated people speak English, and only educated people use computers for (technologically) productive purposes, there is no need to ever waste money on this crap outside of, say, smartphone apps and websites for uneducated people. I would understand the need to localize Word and such, since occasionally kids, shopkeepers, etc might use it, but why a bloody programming tool? Either you're self-taught, in which case you speak English, or you learned it in school, in which case you went to school, and thus speak English. There's no scenario in which someone learns, say, C#, without first learning English. Maybe in Spanish there are perfect translations for everything, but unless you have the good fortune to belong to a major linguistic group you're better off keeping everything in English. And even if this were the case, I would still argue localization of technical software is harmful as it cuts you off from the wider world. inb4 preserve your cultural heritage and the independence of your national software industry- The chips are American, the software is American, just what point is there to making life difficult for yourself and everyone else? Fine if AMD were Chinese and had a whole different ecosystem around it, then it might indeed be reasonable to use Chinese there, but as it is now it's just a painful nuisance that needs to go away. It's not as if American companies being English-only has saved their software industry's independence, is it? Or on the converse, as if Europe develops any less software than they would if their developers would be using their native languages. Jeff Atwood has a quite sickening outlook on life, but in this matter he's actually right: https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-ugly-american-programmer/ There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-29, 00:40 in What are you listening to right now?
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Post: #333 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
In America, Fuck the police, ACAB, etc. In Germany... There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-29, 14:12 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps" (revision 1)
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Post: #334 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
He's the stereotype of "soulless Silicon Valley programmer". On the other hand, he made Stack Overflow, so I'd say it evens out. But yes, fuck Disco EDIT: What do you get if you take away the o from Discourse? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-29, 15:06 in Something about cheese!
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Post: #335 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Every passing day, the threat of a Chinese takeover seems more and more imminent. And every passing day, the prospect of a Chinese takeover seems less and less threatening. https://twitter.com/yiqinfu/status/1133215940936650754 How long until we get IRL crime coefficients? They did manage to identify criminals with neural networks, and other research suggests you can identify political leanings, so it should only be a matter of time. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-29, 21:23 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #336 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by Kawa ABXD is very nice, but I don't think it scales that well. It definitely is the best open-source forum software for small boards that don't need those features however, insofar as it is open-source. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
| sureanem |
Posted on 19-05-29, 21:55 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #337 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by tomman No, I mean it in the absolute literal sense of handling many people/posts. If you want high performance, just rewrite it in C (or Rust if you're scared of pointers) and get >100x better performance than Node/PHP, the real challenge is the humans. Stuff like thread subscriptions/quote notification, guest posting, image uploads, thread previews, and such. Without those, it just devolves into complete chaos and a shouting match given enough users. Reddit is a great example of how this eventually happens. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-29, 22:33 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #338 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Why C#? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-30, 08:43 in GNOME: "Please don't theme our apps"
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Post: #339 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
Posted by tomman You're right in that this would be a completely insane line of reasoning, but I have never said that. Posted by sureanem Posted by sureanem 92 users is far from enough. Even 9200 won't do the trick. I'm talking ~1 million or more. One post per minute or more, something like that. For such forums, there is no good FOSS software. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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Posted on 19-05-30, 21:53 in I still HATE smartdevices
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Post: #340 of 717 Since: 01-26-19 Last post: 1763 days Last view: 1761 days |
If you put the SIM in another phone, does it work? There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this. |
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