Win98-Related Problems with SCI

NSouthern388 ::)

Hello everyone,

I'm having a significant amount of trouble with SCI and wondered if someone can help.

I'm wild about the concept of the game engine and admire the layout of SCI (not to mention the work Brian has put into it), but every time I try to use it, I get dozens of different errors... "Fatal Exception OD"s and a system crash when I double-click the "Run" icon, "Bitmap Image not Valid" when I select "Font" or "Cursor" from the resource list... the wrong colors popping up when I select a certain color on the palette to edit a single resource... Distorted cels when I save a resource. The list goes on and on.

I emailed Brian Provinciano several months ago, expressing confusion and asking for advice. He wrote back and stated that the problems are probably related to Windows 98 (from which SCI doesn't run well).

I was almost ready to run out and buy Windows Millennium to accomodate SCI, but first tried it on a Millennium system at work. No success. More errors on Millennium, different but quite similar to my experience with Win 98.

I'll do literally anything I can to make this work, even if it means buying a new version of Windows, new accessories for my computer, or a new system. But I have no idea what the solution might be.

Can anyone offer suggestions about fixing these problems and getting SCI to run properly (ie. eradicating the errors I mentioned)?

Any help you can provide would be invaluable to me.

Best,

Nathan Southern
(NSouthern388, NSouthern8@aol.com)
Robin_Gravel Did you try the new sci studio yet?

I am going to try it tomorrow. Sci studio 1.4 should work on my computer.

Robin Gravel
mr-t You need to get a Windows NT (Windows 2000 - XP) based operating system as SCI Studio leaks memory like a bad battery under Win32 (Windows 95 - ME)

The only other advice I can offer is downloading Brian's SCI Graphics Studio, which is alot more stable.

http://www.bripro.com/scistudio/
The Ultimo I've never had this problem with my copy and I have Win98. I only ever get the same problems as most other people and that is screwed up views.

You should try the latest release or try installing it again.

- Ultimo
Lightfoot I run Win98, I ran into a problem when using ABS Pen in pic editor. If I tried to change colours it would say "Incorrect Pic function" or something. But only if I had already drawn with ABS Pen with a different colour.

I got around it by closing the pic editor every time I wanted to change colours. The line tools didn't do this for me, but occasionally it would say "bits out of range" when I tried to save.

The view editor however, won't do anything for me, I successfully made a view, even when it was mangling my image every third click. But when I tried to save it, SCI Studio causes a GPF and I lose it all.
Lightfoot The Stand-Alone VGA View editor gives me no problems. Except I can't use the v56 file in SCI Studio. :'(
mr-t You can't use VGA bitmaps in EGA SCI!
Patrik To every Win98 user I'd just like to say: Kids, remember when SCI Studio was completely impossible to work with? Though there still are quite some problems, compared to how it used to be I'd like to say that it works remarkably well in recent versions. The only annoying problems I've had are those quite well known sprite ed bugs. And now and then one or another in the pic ed. But really, Brian has been taking some great steps in the right direction... So I wouldn't suggest tossing win98 in the trash just yet. There might be other reasons to do it though...
Lightfoot
Patrik wrote:

To every Win98 user I'd just like to say: Kids, remember when SCI Studio was completely impossible to work with? Though there still are quite some problems, compared to how it used to be I'd like to say that it works remarkably well in recent versions. The only annoying problems I've had are those quite well known sprite ed bugs. And now and then one or another in the pic ed. But really, Brian has been taking some great steps in the right direction... So I wouldn't suggest tossing win98 in the trash just yet. There might be other reasons to do it though...


OK no, I don't remember I just started using it. Secondly I know Brian is doing an excellent job. I am not chopping his work, I am simply pointing out bugs. If Brian is programming it for win2k and everything works fine, he may not be aware of the bugs with win98. As it is, I can't use SCI Studio to do anything.

I won't be tossing Win98 out for the sake of SCI Studio, win98 is better by far than win2k series, and many would agree. On my network there is no place for win2k.

I am a programmer aswell, to a certain degree, not the level that Brian is at, but on a different level, and I program for win98. I would offer my assistance in the developement, but I don't think I have anything to offer besides bug reports.

Finally, I know you can't use VGA view's in EGA SCI, that was apparent to me when it didn't work and the file name was .v56 instead of .view
mr-t
win98 is better by far than win2k series, and many would agree. On my network there is no place for win2k.


I used to think that until I actually tried Win2K.
Patrik Lightfoot, I'm a bit puzzled... You say you can't use Sci Studio for ANYTHING, but (maybe I didn't make myself clear) I am a Win98 user myself and I've had very few problems with the program. So have many others. Then maybe your troubles aren't related to yr os? Sure you're using a recent build? BTW, I was not trying to say that Wink2k is great (actually, I haven't tried it out). But I think Win98 is extremely unstable. This MIGHT be due to my shitty lo-budgetlaptop cpu, though... Hmm, gone off topic. Oh well. Carry on, will ya.
mr-t SCI Studio's usefulness on Win32 varies from everything except the view editor working perfectly to nothing at all working properly.
Lightfoot
Mr. T wrote:

win98 is better by far than win2k series, and many would agree. On my network there is no place for win2k.


I used to think that until I actually tried Win2K.


I took MCSE for win2k, I know how it works, I am a computer technicien, I work on ME and XP machines most, hardly ever 98 machines. I also run an INternet Cafe so computer stability is always in question when you have 500 people using it.