[center][glow=green,2,300]Rare SCI Games[/glow][/center]
[glow=red,2,300]EGA Versions:[/glow]
[size=1]This section covers all the little known EGA versions of well known SCI1 games, like King's Quest 5. When Sierra first moved to 256-color VGA games, they probably feared that people with inferior video cards, or not enough memory, wouldn't be able to run those games. So they made an alternative version with the same point-and-click interface, only with 16-color EGA graphics. When they moved to their newer interpreter, SCI1.1, they stopped making a seperate EGA version, and instead shipped the games (or at least some of them) with an EGA high-resolution driver, (called EGA640.DRV) that could dither the 320x240 VGA graphics in 640x480 EGA.[/size]
Screenshots: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,130/
Screenshots: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,413/
Screenshots: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,187/
Screenshots: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,143/
[glow=red,2,300]CD Versions:[/glow]
[size=1]This section covers all the less known CD versions of Sierra games.[/size]
[glow=red,2,300]Other:[/glow]
[size=1]This section covers all the rest.[/size]
Screenshot: http://www.agigames.com/hq.gif
[glow=red,2,300]International Versions:[/glow]
[size=1]This section covers all the (official) translations.[/size]
Screenshots: http://russo.ag.ru/official/125/
Screenshots: http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~nuts/game/game09.html,
http://www.02.246.ne.jp/~kaw/t-o-m-d/review/qfglory/index.html
If you want to contact me in private about the games you can do so at this address:
sitra *at* myrealbox.com
Castle of Dr. Brain EGA
Castle of Dr. Brain (CD version)
EcoQuest 1 EGA
Leisure Suit Larry 1 (CD version) [Atleast, it's mentioned in the catalogue, never saw it though]
Further on, there are games like KQ7 1.0 (win only) and KQ7 2.0 (dos&win)...
Also, what's LSL6CD like? It's SCI32 isn't it?
http://perso.wanadoo.es/losada./Larry6.GIF
Police Quest 1 (EGA & VGA)
Police Quest 2 (Looking for Security Codes to get into the game, please if you have Police Quest 2 - Please post the codes)
Police Quest 3
Space Quest 1 (EGA & VGA)
Soace Quest 2
Space Quest 3
Space Quest 4
Space Quest 5
Leisure Suit Larry 1 (EGA & VGA)
Leisure Suit Larry 2
Leisure Suit Larry 3
Leisure Suit Larry 5
Leisure Suit Larry 6 (Not the CD version)
Kings Quets 1 (EGA & VGA)
Kings Quest 2
Kings Quest 3
Kings Quest 4
Kings Quest 5 (IS THERE AN EGA VERSION??, if there is then i got the VGA version)
Kings Quest 6
Kings Quest 7
Gobliiins 1
Inca
I also got others
I don't know why yopu want to know what old games we got, but hey, i listed most of mine.
P.S. Will SCI Studio VGA be able to edit games like Leisure Suit Larry 6 and Kings Quest 6??
why did he ask what games we go anywayz??
what is warez??
and also there is something wron with the SCI Studio source code, when i try to compile it in Borland C++ 6 (Enterprise) i get 26 errors??
could somebody help me?? (tell me if you can compile it, so that i know if the problem is with Borland C++ 6)
oh well...
(ciao.)
I'm not interested in a list of all the sierra games you have. I'm only interested in games that are considered rare, such as the EGA versions of games (not something like the first AGI version of LSL1, but the EGA version of the SCI Remake).
I will edit my post soon, to add the games that you added.
The purpose is to let people in our community know such rare games exist. for example, until recently, many of us didn't know a game like King's Quest 5 EGA even existed, and the type of it's PIC resources is still not fully understood (unless I'm not updated with the latest breakthroughs).
HWM:
What do you mean by the dos and dos&win versions of KQ7? is there anything special about it?
WOW, i never knew.
You think so? I thought the Quest for Glory 1 SCI0 was rare.. Everywhere I looked I found only the Hero's Quest version, and only when I got the QFG collection, I found the QFG1 SCI0 version...
What do other people think about this? If you don't understand, than we're talking about 1 of the 3 versions that QFG1 comes in:
There's the original Hero's Quest 1 in SCI0, there's a same game with different title called Quest for Glory 1 in SCI0, and there's the VGA remake Quest for Glory 1 in SCI1. The last 2 versions can both be found on the QFG Collection CD.
Do you think that the first version is considered rare?
Berserk:
From your questions I get the feeling that you're confusing the EGA AGI versions with the EGA SCI versions we're talking about. Do you know that difference? For example, you wrote you have "Space Quest 1 (EGA & VGA)". Is your EGA versions a point-n-click version like the VGA one? If your answer is no, than you got the whole thread idea wrong. I suggest you start up a new thread with a question like: "What is the difference between AGI & SCI?" and I'm sure you'll get lots of information from the people here.
-Kon-Tiki-
At that point of view i would not say Sierras "Hero's Quest" is rare because it is just the same as QfG1.
-Allyb-
The 2 games have the same graphics and story, but Hero's Quest has more humor and such which was taken out when they renamed it to Quest for Glory. Also the intro's look a bit different between the 2.
The Hero's Quest version is rare because it was only sold for about a year then taken off the market and replaced with Quest for Glory 1.
There is other various changes in the intro's graphics between the 2, for instance, in Quest for Glory 1 the Sierra logo is to the left of the intro screen, in Hero's Quest it is in the middle.
The Hero's Quest uses a lower version interpreter as well.
The manual is a bit different as well.
I updated the list...
And regarding the Hero's Quest/Quest for Glory... I think Hero's Quest, being sold for like a year, isn't that rare... I don't know how many copies have been sold, but it's likely that it sold more than the re-release, atleast that's usually the case... I was only aware of Hero's Quest for a long time and there are atleast two versions of it (one being 1.0)... Quest for Glory, due to the re-releases (collections, etc.) also didn't became rare (and perhaps the most popular?)...
But then again, what's the definition of 'rare'?
And what about the versions in other languages (Spanish, German, French, Italian)?
(Oh yeah...maybe this is off the topic but:
Will SCI Studio VGA be able to view the contents of games like: Kings Quest 6, 7 and Leisure Suit Larry 7??
Are these games made in SCI??)
ciao ;)
I own the EGA version of Space Quest 4.
I will post some screenshots within a few days (if you guys are interested of course)
Sith
I found a some pages on Myby Games with lots of EGA screenshots from Sierra, so I'd save you the upload. Here they are:
Space Quest 4 EGA:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,143/
King's Quest 5 EGA:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,130/
Larry 1 Remake EGA:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,413/
Space Quest 1 Remake EGA:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,187/
BTW - I found & contacted the person who uploaded those screenshots and he has lots of those EGA versions... So they're not extinct and that's great!
HWM:
OK - I'll add the KQ7 versions to the list.
About the foreign languages versions: It's a greet idea to add those here too. Can you make a short list to start with?
Berserk:
I'm glad you found something new about Sierra games. That was the porpuse of this thread. But can you please ask your off topic questions on a new thread? Thanks man. ;)
Freddy Pharkas (German, French, Spanish)
King's Quest 5 (French)
King's Quest 6 (German)
Leisure Suit Larry 1 SCI (Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 5 (Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 6 (French, Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 7 (German)
Police Quest 4 (Spanish)
Quest for Glory 3 (French, German, Italian and Spanish)
Space Quest 3 (German, Spanish)
Space Quest 5 (German, French)
BUT... I think the most, atleast the SCI11 versions, are released in all five languages...
HWM wrote:
I'm aware of the following versions...
Freddy Pharkas (German, French, Spanish)
King's Quest 5 (French)
King's Quest 6 (German)
Leisure Suit Larry 1 SCI (Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 5 (Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 6 (French, Spanish)
Leisure Suit Larry 7 (German)
Police Quest 4 (Spanish)
Quest for Glory 3 (French, German, Italian and Spanish)
Space Quest 3 (German, Spanish)
Space Quest 5 (German, French)
BUT... I think the most, atleast the SCI11 versions, are released in all five languages...
There are spanish versions of the following games:
Leisure Suit Larry 1 SCI
Leisure Suit Larry 5
Leisure Suit Larry 6 (Floppy)
Leisure Suit Larry 7
King's Quest 5
King's Quest 6 (Floppy)
Freddy Pharkas (Floppy)
Police Quest 3
Eco Quest 1
Eco Quest 2
Quest for Glory SCI
Quest for Glory 3
Space Quest 1 SCI
Space Quest 4 (Floppy)
Space Quest 5
Gabriel Knight (Floppy)
Torin's Passage
Castle of Dr. Brain
Island of Dr. Brain
Laura Bow 2
Although there are amateur translations of SQ1AGI, SQ2,SQ3,LSL1AGI,LSL2,LSL3,LSL6CD,Laura Bow 1 and maybe more. There is no spanish version of Police Quest 4 (that i know of).
Space Quest 3 wasn't definitely translated, but there is about 2 or 3 different amateur translations.
and posting your Rare SCI game list there, I will then sticky it. Also be sure to register before you post it that way you update the rare game list when you want to.
If not, can I go ahead and post it myself?
-Kon-Tiki-
And BTW: some of the foreign versions are bilingual too...
Additions:
EcoQuest 1 French
EcoQuest 2 French
King's Quest 6 French
Laura Bow 2 French
Police Quest 4 French
Space Quest 4 French
japanese version? that I must see!
I'll soon update the list.
and about pepper: HWM is right there - It is SCI, but not realy rare - just less popular...
If many people here will tell me they never heard of it then i'll add it to the list.
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=814
Omer Mor wrote:
I have LSL1 SCI with the (irritating) copy protection enabled...
Never saw it until recently, still wondering why the other release does not have it... It's not like it's cracked or something...
Do you have an original LSL1 VGA, or is yours downloaded?
Mr. T wrote:
So, you're trying to say that SQ3 was translated into spanish the same way Zerowing was translated into english? "Someone set up us the bomb!"
No. I don't know what is that Zerowing thing, but I just said that the game doesn't have an official translation. There are a couple of translations made by fans using SCI Studio and some more programs. They aren't much good, though...
Proper Translation : You appear to be preoccupied, gentlemen.
Zerowing : How are you gentlemen!!
Proper : Thanks to the cooperation of the UN forces, we have captured all your bases.
Zerowing : All your base are belong to us!!
Proper : Impossible!
Zerowing : What you say!!
and it goes on...
Pleeease... We've been over this... The spanish amateur translations aren't that crappy, since they were made by people whose native language is spanish, so...
Brian:
My version is a pretty common version around here... It was released by a cracking group called "The Untouchables" (and included a nice lsl intro!) and is the disk version...
But I'm pretty sure it's not cracked... Since the code isn't in the script files! I've done some cracking myself and know that removing the *entire* copy-protection *code* from the game, isn't only very hard, but also totally unnecessary...
BTW: So, the LSL1SCI CD version exists? What's it like?
These screenshots are looking familiar to me because i have play Kings Quest 5 and Larry 5 on my Amiga. It was a real torture playing these games without a Harddisk :-)
These Games are not rare ... in my eyes
nio wrote:
I now have seen the "EGA" screenshots. Guys, these games are not rare, they are just the Amiga Versions. Since the Amiga 500 had only 32 Colors at maximum when not in half-bright-mode.
These screenshots are looking familiar to me because i have play Kings Quest 5 and Larry 5 on my Amiga. It was a real torture playing these games without a Harddisk :-)
These Games are not rare ... in my eyes
Uh, I have played those games on the PC (not using WinUAE, or any other Amiga emulator)... And the page containing the screenshots clearly states: "DOS Screenshots" (since Amiga games are also covered)...
So they aren't Amiga versions...
EDIT: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/gameId,413/
(btw - is it hero's quest or quest for glory? ;D)
EDIT: About Pepper's Adventure; there's lots of info on Mark Seibert's (Sierra's 'main man' regarding music) page...
Keep posting information about those rare games! :)
btw - I deleted all the other posts of mine here that contained the list, and now I'll only maintain the list the opens this thread.
Ramon wrote:
Does anyone also care about the matching interpreter versions with each language version? Does anyone have a list of all available interpreters?
I do have a list of those; however it's just a personal list (not made it public). But a list of *all* interpreters... Well, there are lots and lots of SCI interpreters... Almost every single game has another version... But I have documented a fair share of them though...
my original intent was to make a public list of all known SCI interpreters, and I started collecting data for this purpose a long time ago. Sadly, it went down the drain, when my friend accidently erased all of my Sierra directory, along with the sierra\interpreters\ directory that I was working on... :(
But - I intend on starting over, and one of the reasons I was so interested in the list of rare SCI games was my interpreters list. I will also use all of the SCI game demos I have. Maybe we should add them to the rare list as well?
One more thing: You can base your list on the one that's already found at the FreeSCI's site:
http://freesci.linuxgames.com/scihtml/x157.html
Ramon wrote:
I'll start up a new topic tonight with my list so we can expand on that...
Errr... Still planning to do so?
Ramon wrote:
Thanks for the file, though
Marked more EGA games that I have now, and added more screenshot links to QfG1 Japanese - Check them out! I really wish I had this game.
link 1.
If it helps (and I guess it will :-), you can try this babelfish translation:
link 2.
From what I understand, this translation was not made for the PC, but for a NEC console called PC-9801. There are several emulators for this console, but I have no idea how we can obtain the game itself.
Anyway - I'm not sure now that the game qualifies for the list, unless it'll include SCI games for other platforms as well... what do you think?
I personally think this game is too rare to be taken out of the list. Who could've imagined a Japanese Quest for Glory? :-)
modified by Nick to fix links
Anyway, it's still rare... Just keep it on the list, since probably all Japanese Sierra games are made for those kind of computers (knowing the Japanese computer market)... I could be wrong, however...
lsl3 - french/english (sci01)
http://www.02.246.ne.jp/~kaw/t-o-m-d/review/qfglory/index.html
Japanese is one hard language to learn :-\
still wish i had more than screenshots though ..
Gabriel Knight 2 (Portuguese version with subtitles)
King
Omer.
King
Omer, if you can get in touch with me again, I will update it for the new look website.
And King's Quest 4 AGI was released, I have it by the way...
HWM wrote:
Mr. T - the list you linked is the one that describes the various debug modes in sierra games - what would like me to do for your new look site? I don't think I have any updates this list...
Omer.
Omer.
1. Why was Space Quest 3 (Sci01) only released in German?
2. Why was Police Quest (Sci1) not released in French.
3. Why was Conquest of the Longbow (Sci1) only released in German?
4. Why was Eco Quest 2 (Sci11) not released in German.
5. Why was Larry 6 (Sci32) CD version only released with German texts?
etcetc...
Could it be that previous titles did not sell? Or that some ingame content was tricky for that country. Or that distributors didn't want to sell it? Or or...?
I tried to find info on this on the internet, but it's very hard to come by. I think that someone from France, Canada, Spain, Germany could know best what games were released and which were not and why?
Any light people can shed on this would be greatly appreciated...
Ramon.
Ramon wrote:
Could it be that previous titles did not sell? Or that some ingame content was tricky for that country. Or that distributors didn't want to sell it? Or or...?
This earlier post says:
kelmer wrote:
Well at the time GK was released, Sierra changed distributor in Spain from Erbe to Coktel Educative, which only translated about 3 or 4 games since...
Regarding this, I think it's mainly a distributor issue... Perhaps as you said; because the previous titles didn't sell that well or something...
Also, I don't know how you exactly discovered what got translated and what didn't, but apart from the lack of information (on the 'net) on it, there's also a lot of (IMHO) faulty information (hello Adventureland!)...
Like the fact I'm still not convinced that Police Quest (SCI11) Spanish exists, since I've seen no real evidence... As far as I know, Police Quest was the last AGI2SCI remake Sierra made (SCI11, instead of SCI1 with other remakes, IIRC) and wasn't translated... Furthermore I *believe* the SCI remakes weren't translated to French and German... Which makes sense, since they didn't bring the cash Sierra expected...
No Agi games were ever distributed in Spain, hence no agi games were ever officially translated into my language.
Erbe software was born in 1984 as a spanish distributor of multimedia products, centered in videogames (like Nintendo's). They had a golden age linked to the adventure games' one: they signed contracts with the most important and relevant companies of the era, distributing mostly adventure games, and in my opinion, doing very good translations. Almost every adventure game until 1994 was distributed by this company, they had contracts with LucasArts, Infogrames, Sierra; no adventure games were released without a translation.
They distributed LSL1(VGA), LSL5, LSL6, SQ1(VGA), SQ4,SQ5, KQ5, KQ6, QFG3, Police Quest 3 (PQ1 was never translated or distributed, don't know why) among others, with their respective translations. They even released cheap versions which were the EGA only ones of SQ4 or KQ5 and some more (i got this two, kq5 is somewhat damaged). Robin hood, conquest of the longbow wasn't ever distributed either.
Yet, special edition versions of some Sierra games (like SQ4 CD, KQ5CD or LSL6CD) were never released or translated (well, Gabriel Knight CD was). I guess Sierra didn't want to because they thought they wouldn't make much profit. Some of this games were later released under collections or magazines. (I got them all original in their english versions)
But then this company, Erbe, began to have internal and financial problems (which started when one of their buildings catched on fire), and little by little every partner company were leaving it alone with no products to distribute. (LucasArts signed with EA, Sierra with Coktel, Infogrames got its own distributor in Spain) So much that they wen bankrupt around 1998.
Coktel Educative (one of Sierra's subsidiaries) took care of Sierra's products around 1995, and since then they've translated, as far as I know, the following adventure games:
The Last Dinasty (translated, dubbed)
Torin's Passage (text translation only)
LSL7 (texts)
Lighthouse(texts, voices)
Gabriel Knight 3 (texts)
Urban Runner (texts)
The quality of this translations is not as good as those of Erbe's, but can be stood. They left the following games with no translation of any kind (although they did distribute all of them):
Mixed up Mother Goose
Quest for Glory 4
Shivers
Space Quest 6
Gabriel Knight 2
Phantasmagoria
Phantasmagoria 2
Rama
Shivers 2
Quest for glory 5
When the internet area started and SCI and AGI utilities were being made, the following amateur translations were made, existing one to each of the following games:
Police Quest: In Pursuit of the Death Angel (AGI)
King's Quest I (SCI)
King's Quest IV
Laura Bow: Colonel's Bequest
LSL2
LSL3
Space Quest 2
Space Quest 3
The Black Cauldron
Robin Hood: conquests of the longbow
An I think that's all.
Anyone?
kelmer wrote:
Yet, special edition versions of some Sierra games (like SQ4 CD, KQ5CD or LSL6CD) were never released or translated (well, Gabriel Knight CD was).
Was GK1 CD released with Spanish translation or just plain English version?
Furthermore, some other questions:
The following games I can't find info on if they exist. For each I've explained why I think they are there (or not):
Eco Quest 1 (Talkie) German -> Dont' think this exists, since talkie version never had another language (subtitled!), only GK1 and LSL6 had a german substitled version.
Gabriel Knight 1 (Talkie) and Larry 6 (Talkie) French -> These two had a German subtitled version, but no Spanish one (kelmer).
Eco Quest 2 German -> Makes sense since French and Spanish version are available, just like EQ1, LB2, QFG3, KQ6, SQ5 and FP, which were are released around same time (Dec 1991-Apr 1993)
Police Quest 3 French -> This game was released along KQ5, SQ4, LSL5 (Dec 1990-Aug 1991), they all have French, German, Spanish language. PQ3 has German and Spanish, so I think French too?
Quest for Glory 4 French -> Spanish one does not exist, German one does...
Police Quest 4 Spanish -> Kelmer thinks this one does not exist, other do. PQ4 German and French do exist too.
Any confirmations on my ideas will be helpful.
One of them came with the Gabriel Knight Mysteries pack and its completely in english.
The other one is a different CD version (no windows interpreter, only DOS with vesa support) which came with spanish subtitles.
LSL6 CD really wasn't translated into spanish, in fact I made a translation using the method I mention above (took the files from floppy version and used them as patches).
kelmer wrote:
LSL6 CD really wasn't translated into spanish, in fact I made a translation using the method I mention above (took the files from floppy version and used them as patches).
Yeah, I meant LSL6 CD was released with German subtitles, but not with Spanish, so was wondering if one with French exists...
Omer Mor wrote:
Is it (the russian lsl7) an official release or a hacked one?
Hacked one, but very well (mean: EXCELLENT) translated. Translated just everything (and voices of course) + jokes adapted to russian audience ;D
Anyway. Few days ago SoftClub company finished translating of Torin's Passage game and it's available in stores now. I didn't checked it out yet, but i guess it will be very good. 8)
-VAG
Farlander wrote:You wrong. Akella never sold it officially. There is no any info about this game on Akella's website. This is very proof, but still `unofficial official` translation. ;)
Lsl7 is not hacked! It is an official translation by Akella!
-VAG