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    Broseph Evo 2020 Finals


    EVO Japan 2020: Tekken 7 - TOP 8 (Leroy Edition)
    EVO Japan 2020: SFV - TOP 8
    EVO Japan 2020: Samurai Shodown - TOP 8

    Good to see a bit more variety in SFV tournaments now that the top is not dominated so much by the Karins and the 'kumas crew. Don't really play Tekken but uh, that new Leroy character seem to be popular.
    hunterk
    Posted by Broseph
    it was worth it just for the initial random bracket drawing
    rofl, a bunch of international nerds in a cage chugging red bulls. I love it! Some great matches, too.

    I agree that Rashid is bullshit, and it's even more infuriating since we see so many of them each tournament, all doing the same bullshit flowchart over and over and over.
    Broseph Amazingly enough, Kichipamu used the Tundra counter once in one his match. But yeah, it's just too situational and too risky in most cases to be worth it when you can often use something like EX SPD in those scenarios (or even EX running Bear Grab/Power Bomb since it has armor). It looks cool, but that's pretty much it.

    Menat's zoning is mitigated by her crap defensive options, especially when she's in the corner. I think she's not that bad on the BS meter (she's probably a really bad match up for Gief though). Rashid otoh...

    The main event yesterday was probably the best SFV tournament ever imo. Not only many of the matches great but everything about the show was top notch; production, pre-show, location, audience (there were actually "Ohhhhs!" and "Ahhhhs!" from the audience) and overall performance. Heck, even the "How to Kumite" interludes. Seriously, it was worth it just for the initial random bracket drawing or the Grand Finals entrance.

    Red bull Kumite 2019
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/524701788
    hunterk Oh man, that was a great grand finals. Infiltration always has such weird pocket characters. Fuck Menat, though. What were they thinking when they designed that character anyway? "What if Dhalsim... but Rose?" I'm very impressed that Kubo managed to win with Abigail, since that seems to be a really poor matchup for him. Infiltration seemed to be having a lot of fun, too, which is nice to see.

    That counter-kick thing for Gief looks really useful, as opposed to his existing counter thing, which is indeed fucking useless. I think its active frames are too short or something, as it never lands, even when it seems like it should. FAKEDIT: oh, okay, nvm, this pretty much sums up why it sucks:

    This attack is infamous for its counter intuitiveness in terms of usefulness, as most other attacks simply work against an attack archtype, such as punch attacks or aerial attacks. However, this attack counters certain kind of kick attacks. Zangief can only catch horizontally-aligned kicks with this move. Mistimed or trying to counter the wrong type of attack puts Zangief in a Counter Hit state for higher damage and longer combos.


    It does seem to have a 2f startup, which is smart so it can sneak into frametraps, you just need to know every single vulnerable move from every character and when those moves are used in blockstrings... That burden of knowledge is simply too great to be really useful, IMO.
    Broseph Last Chance Qualifier for Red Bull Kumite yesterday
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/524249503

    Couple of matches with timestamps:
    StormKubo - Matsuhige
    Itazan - Noguti
    Gunfight - Jyobin
    Gunfight - Moke
    StormKubo - Kenpi

    Grand Finals - StormKubo(W) - Infiltration(L)

    Sucks that there were apparently lag on 2P side on last CC (probably came from the splitter setup I'm guessing) but this event looked much better organized.

    Not sure about Rashid's V-Skill-II...reminds me a bit of SFIV El-Fuerte ("Air-Fuerte" maybe).


    Top-16 today/Japan's Sunday. Starts in about 3 hours as of this at https://www.twitch.tv/redbull/
    Broseph When Idom switched to Poison against Punk in the finals I thought, Wtf? Why would he switch now when his Laura was so dominant until now and was able to reset and he won 5 matches back to back, but seems it was the right call. Punk kind of fell apart after the reset while Idom was able to keep it together. Understandably, the pressure must have been insane for both players. Heart-rates probably above 120 bpm.

    There's some pretty big balance changes in this update so we'll have to see how this affects 'Gief. His new v-skill II seem to be some kind of wrestling-type kick...counter, I think, not sure. It was shown briefly during the reveal here (looks pretty similar to the one Kenny Omega gave Ono before the reveal actually heh ). Let's hope it's more useful than his "Tundra Storm" kick counter because I don't think I've ever seen that move connect in a real match once.

    Well, time to download the 25GB update...
    hunterk Those Kichipa-mu matches are a perfect illustration of why Gief sucks in SF5: no conversion capability. Every other good character can convert a landed footsie into good damage, a hard knockdown and usually a mixup. You land a perfect footsie with Gief and you get... nothing. It feels very unrewarding.

    I liked all of the Idom matches I saw. He's a good player and that stoneface of his is great. EDIT: whoops, I was thinking someone else with the stoneface, but Idom is definitely a great player with a great attitude.
    Broseph Holy moly...so many nail biters...

    Day 1:

    ProblemX - Daigo
    Fuudo - Luffy
    Bonchan - Smug
    Kichipa-mu - Tokido
    Fujimura - Idom
    Daigo - NL

    Kichipa-mu - Moke


    Daigo (Guile) vs. Tokido (Akuma)


    Day 2:

    Most anime grand finals ever in SFV:
    Punk vs. Idom

    $250k...not bad. (Though I don't know how much is left after taxes but still)

    New Character reveal

    Also, I think Ono said the v-skill-II mechanic patch is available now.
    Broseph Well, despite their ups and downs at least they've made it through which is more than what can be said from things like Konami and other ex big Japanese names like that I guess.
    CaptainJistuce "Capcom had some issues" summarizes much of the last ... decade, really.
    Broseph CC 2019 starts tomorrow. Well, technically there was the Last Chance Qualifier today (it's still going as of this post so no idea who's going to be the 32th player). Apparently Capcom had some logistic issues so they couldn't do a proper broadcast with commentators and things like that so the best we got is players who attended the event like Snake Eyez being able to film the matches live with their phones (it's...not great).

    Tomorrow will have a proper stream for top-32 though. Sunday, I think, is top 8/finals.
    https://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters
    hunterk I'm not a big fan of how heavily some characters (including Gil) rely on juggling. This ain't Tekken :P

    EDIT: whoa, punk is in the top spot? Wild. I haven't watched m/any matches with him on Karin, but I never cared much for his Rog.
    CaptainJistuce
    Posted by Broseph

    Gill looks pretty good imo. Random history but back in SFIII, Gill's blue/red asymmetrical design was mostly a way to showcase some kind of color swap effect (in order to avoid the SFII Sagat's eye-patch changing sides issue because of sprite mirroring).
    No fancy palette effect. They're just showing off that he has a different set of sprites for when he's facing left than he does for when he's facing right. He was intentionally designed to have an obvious left and right side so everyone could tell.
    Broseph
    Posted by hunterk
    Sounds like the new SF5 update will unlock all the d00ds for $25. I'll finally have a full game several years and $85 later...


    Ha, I was just thinking the same. Looks like the full game is finally being released.

    Gill looks pretty good imo. Random history but back in SFIII, Gill's blue/red asymmetrical design was mostly a way to showcase some kind of color swap effect (in order to avoid the SFII Sagat's eye-patch changing sides issue because of sprite mirroring).

    Final standing: https://capcomprotour.com/standings/?circuit=2019®ion=global&pg=1&list_view=&lang=en-us

    Top-32 but there are 6 places I think that were reserved auto-qualifiers, one for each region so some players in the ~26th-32th range might not have enough points to qualify.
    hunterk Sounds like the new SF5 update will unlock all the d00ds for $25. I'll finally have a full game several years and $85 later...
    Broseph
    Posted by hunterk
    Oh man, those first 2 matches were great. ChrisCCH really had to work for that win, had to make a lot of gambles that ended up well for him.

    Nemo just didn't have anything for JWong's Poison. Back to the ol' drawing board, i guess.


    I'm normally not a big fan of super defensive plays like JWong's but his Poison is fun to watch. I just don't want a CC 2019 finals with nothings but Rashid/Ibuki/Karin/Akuma...


    TOKIDO (Akuma) vs. DAIGO UMEHARA (Guile) Street Fighter V Pro League JP Highlight


    Next up:

    North American Regional Finals 2019
    11/16/2019 - 11/17/2019 - Las Vegas

    Capcom Cup 2019
    12/13/2019 - 12/15/2019 - Los Angeles, CA, USA


    Red Bull *Kumite 2019
    21 – 22 December 2019 - Aichi, Japan

    *
    hunterk Oh man, those first 2 matches were great. ChrisCCH really had to work for that win, had to make a lot of gambles that ended up well for him.

    Nemo just didn't have anything for JWong's Poison. Back to the ol' drawing board, i guess.
    Broseph
    Posted by hunterk
    Those were some good matches. It's good to see Itabashi back on Gief! That match vs Ibuki was wild.


    He still has his 'bigail as a backup character for certain matchups. Kichipa-mu I think is a true 'Gief exclusif.

    Razer Xian (Ibuki) VS AZ Kichipa-mu (Zangief) - Canada Cup 2019 Pools
    ChrisCCH (Sakura) VS CYG BST Daigo (Guile) - Canada Cup 2019 Pools

    Liking Justin's Poison. Seems the character fits his defensive playstyle very well.

    LIQUID`Nemo (Urien) vs JWONG JWong (Poison) - Canada Cup 2019
    UYU JB (Rashid) VS JWONG Jwong (Poison) - Canada Cup 2019

    FAV Ryusei (Urien) VS Tommy2Step (Urien) - Canada Cup 2019 Pools


    Unfortunately top-8 was the standard Rashid, Akuma, Karin, Ibuki festival.
    hunterk Those were some good matches. It's good to see Itabashi back on Gief! That match vs Ibuki was wild.
    Broseph RZR Xian (Ibuki) vs DNG Itabashi Zangief (Zangief) - First Attack 2019

    CYG BST Daigo (Guile) vs BANDITS MenaRD (Birdie) - First Attack 2019
    UYU Oil King (Rashid) vs CYG BST Daigo (Guile) - First Attack 2019


    Daigo and Itabashi in top 8 sunday tommorow.


    edit: Parts of an interview with the director of SFII
    Daigo Interviews the Father of SFII [Daigo & Nishitani]
    Why Are SFII Characters So Unique? [Interview with The Father of SFII]


    edit2:
    UYU JB (Rashid) vs CYG BST Daigo Umehara (Guile) - First Attack 2019 Top 8


    iDom (Poison) vs DNG Itabashi Zangief (Abigail) - First Attack 2019 Top 8

    REC Punk (Karin) vs GO RB Luffy (R. Mika) - First Attack 2019 Grand Final
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