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    Kakashi After staying away from high-pitched noises like pianos and children singing to avoid pain, then moving onto a single earplug on and off throughout the day, then weening off of that, my doctor cleared my tympanic membrane as looking healthy and recommended I use my headphones at a sane volume to help me ignore (not drain out) the sound of the tinnitus. But, it takes 6 months for the actual cochlea to "heal", but the ringing never goes away.

    You wanna know how all this happened? I had the flu, which led to to adenoiditis (originally misdiagnosed as sinusitis), which led to otitis media, which was later made worse by actual sinusitis. Working with young children guarantees you get a bunch of icky stuff. I've gotten the norovirus twice, now. Oh god, it was horrible the first time when I didn't realise I had to drink small sips.
    DonJon
    Can they eliminate the sound of the cord rubbing against your clothes/objects?


    well if you're seeing an hearing specialist, it probably be a good idea to have them tell you what would be the best one for you. don't know if you'll be hearing noises from the cord and such. whenever i use headphones i use noise isolating ones. never had a pair that was noise cancelling

    edited - sorry, got op mixed up which always happen for some reason...though aren't headphones generally not recommended for people suffering from hearing loss? especially if someone is always listening to them at high volumes
    Kakashi All I know is that I'm learning how to tune it out right now, but until my cochlea has fully healed, the otolaryngologist at the hospital won't be giving me one. I never even knew they existed until she mentioned them to me.
    funkyass god no.

    Imagine a hundred squeaky doors slamming open and shut all the time for the rest of time without stopping.

    thats how it starts, hopefully stays at that number, and you can tune it out. white noise can help distract from the doors. In the long run its about being able to ignore it.
    ‮strfry("emanresu")
    Posted by Kakashi
    I want headphones that are not only noise-cancelling in the traditional sense, but will also double as a tinnitus cancelling hearing aid. I'll be getting one of those in a couple of months and I'm curious as to how my over-ear headphones will interact with them.

    Does that even work? Isn't the whole deal with them that your hearing around 18 kHz or so is busted and the ear does AGC to compensate?
    Kakashi I want headphones that are not only noise-cancelling in the traditional sense, but will also double as a tinnitus cancelling hearing aid. I'll be getting one of those in a couple of months and I'm curious as to how my over-ear headphones will interact with them.
    CaptainJistuce There aren't, because the cord noise can't be picked up by the microphones that the noise-cancelling hardware uses to detect noise. It is generated by physical movement of the headphones themselves.

    Fancy headphones, incidentally.
    Nicholas Steel For the record I use Sennheiser Pro HD380 circumaural headphones. Lately I tend to let the cord hang loose instead of resting the slack on my torso while I sit, because it minimizes the sound of the cord movements.

    If there were wired circumaural headphones out there with active noise cancelling technology that can mitigate the noise of the cord dragging on textured surfaces that'd be amazing.
    CaptainJistuce They ... DO fasten them with rubber.

    A loosely-affixed cord would cause severe reliability issues due to the consequent loss of strain relief upon some very small solder joints.
    ‮strfry("emanresu")
    Posted by CaptainJistuce
    The problem is actually that the cord IS fastened. The movements of the wire become movements of the earpieces, which disturb the air in the ear and create unwanted sounds. It is mostly a problem with in-ear phones, because their size and position makes them sensitive to small movements.

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/reduce-annoying-microphonics-from-your-in-ear-headphones/

    Yeah, but they could fasten them with rubber or similar to dampen the vibrations.

    For IEMs it's definitely worse. Maybe they could have the cord be only loosely affixed? But that would make the production costs go through the roof (e.g. go from $0.25 to $0.50).
    CaptainJistuce The problem is actually that the cord IS fastened. The movements of the wire become movements of the earpieces, which disturb the air in the ear and create unwanted sounds. It is mostly a problem with in-ear phones, because their size and position makes them sensitive to small movements.

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/reduce-annoying-microphonics-from-your-in-ear-headphones/
    ‮strfry("emanresu") Couldn't they have a mic attached to the cord? Or fasten the cord internally so that the vibrations die out?

    I'm sure a 3.5mm cord wouldn't propagate any vibrations, being made of metal. So if you've just got a female on the headphones, that should do the trick.
    CaptainJistuce
    Posted by Nicholas Steel
    Can they eliminate the sound of the cord rubbing against your clothes/objects?
    Nope. The sound doesn't exist in the air, so their microphones can't pick it up.

    A clothes pin, chip clip, or other clippy thing securing the wire to your shirt collar will greatly cut down on that. It prevents most wire disturbances below the clip from propagating past it, so they never reach your ears.
    Kawaoneechan Yes, it's called wireless. Which has its own damn issues but what can you do?
    Nicholas Steel Can they eliminate the sound of the cord rubbing against your clothes/objects?
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