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Posted by kode54
Hi, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It has a right click if you turn it on. On Linux, it even has a shitty middle click if you turn that on as well. It's not that useful for gaming, but it's plenty enough for common desktop usage.

It has one physical button. How am I supposed to right click with it? And why would I want to use it with Linux?

Conversely, it also absolutely requires a mouse mat, because Apple decided not to put skid pads on the skates, so they make godawful scraping noises on wooden or paper coated desks.

Even with a mouse mat, it's unpleasant to use. It's too heavy, and you don't get a good grip on it since the sides are so thin. Add in the godawful mouse acceleration present on OS X by default, and you have a recipe for disaster.

Why do nearly all OSes have such godawful mouse acceleration? Linux (X) does have a decent implementation, but being X it's buried deep in the settings.

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
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That's equal to a $0.0015 (1/7 cents) bill, correct?

If so, I can only hope you maxed out all the loans you could. Godspeed.

Out of pure curiosity, without wishing to argue for or against any method of exchange or store of value, how is the Bitcoin-implied VESUSD exchange calculated if you can't trade BTCVES? DolarToday lists it, and there appear to be people offering both legs online. Is it just in Caracas or something?

Posted by https://dolartoday.com/
Valor aprox. del paralelo en la ciudad de Caracas

(Approx. parallel [black market] exchange rate in Caracas)

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Posted by tomman
That's a 100.000 strong bolivar (VEF) banknote, equivalent to 1 sovereign bolivar (VES), so yeah, that's roughly fractions of a cent (1,2285012285e-05 says my calculator).

Those notes were legal tender until December 5th, 2018 anyway, but I guess they could be featuring a comeback soon, as our current highest note (the 50000 VES one) is already fucking worthless (unless you have one of the few samples with collectors' value, like one of the ~6000 known replacement notes out of a ~40M -A40039096 is the highest SN I've seen so far, it's not even on the catalogs yet- population of circulating notes)

In other words, those exchange rates are wrong, and it's 10x more worthless than we thought? 1/(1.23e-5) = 440'000 (USD/VES).

50k VES is just north of our lowest legal tender coin (1 kr). Do you guys still use them or is it all denominated in hard currency?

While we're at Stupidville, here is your daily reminder to get your shit fixed for Y2K+:
https://it.slashdot.org/story/20/01/12/0221226/this-years-y2k20-bug-came-directly-from-a-lazy-fix-to-the-y2k-bug

Don't see what's so wrong with it. Surely they can just expand it again? Not too much work to re-window to say 2060, when all of the people working on it will have retired.

Guys, COBOL is long dead, rewriting your gigabyte-long tables to upgrade from CHAR(2) to CHAR(4) has to be done eventually. Preferably before shit hits the fan!

I don't like how all the stuff has to be Unicode and 4-digit dates and ISO god-knows-what compliant. There's a beauty to keeping it simple: 7-bit text (for international users, ISO-8859 or classic 16-bit Unicode), 2-digit years, and 1 pixel = 1 pixel (no god-damned "virtual pixel" nonsense). Localization is UB.

In a few short years, we won't have too much stuff left from the 1990s, so we can return to using 6-digit dates, as one should. Will be really beautiful and I look forward to it.

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Posted by tomman
:facepalm:

You're neither an end user nor a coder that actually cares about doing things the right way in the real world.

I'm an end user concerned with aesthetic sensibilities and a programmer wishing things would be done the right way in the real world. Alas, they are not, why we have 4-digit dates and React "Native" instead.

Reminds me the whole currency reconversion fiasco over here, where there are oh-so-many ways to lop all those extra zeroes, each one with its unique set of pitfalls (mostly rounding errors). It hurt me badly because the VEF->VES transition was done MID-MONTH, instead of the following January 1st (as it was done with VEB->VEF).

If you are in a hurry then perhaps it is not ideal to wait until the new year.

Do you store all your amounts in VEF and convert them on the fly, by checking transaction dates and moving the decimal point accordingly? (BigDecimal is a godsend here!) Or store amount in whatever currency it was done, then enjoy hell when you're going to perform operations with mixed currencies? (because you now have to check transaction dates at EVERY CALCULATION STEP! Oh, and when you get SQL stored procs, things certainly become quite painful. I survived it, but I had to deal with the beancounters fallout until a few months ago...

They're two separate currencies, you can't mix and match data like that.
On the date of the switchover, you debit your VEF accounts with their balance in VEF and credit your VES accounts with their balance in VES.

It's an icky problem because it is an icky problem. It's like handling Germany adopting the Euro by multiplying all balances by 1.95583 and calling it a day. An actual transaction took place, even if it was imaginary, and you can't just handwave it.

Posted by CaptainJistuce
The problem is obvious. You're saying what they said in 2000. And, well, what they said when the original programmers wrote this stuff in the 1960s.

And was there a problem in 2000? No, because they fixed it. And they did so without making everything ugly.

It's disgusting. Instead of YYMMDD, a nice compact number, you get yyYY-MM-DD, where the first 2 digits are just pointless decoration.



7-bit isn't even enough to encode a full set of punctuation alongside a full english alphabet and roman numeral set.

It misses one quote sign, and nobody uses the rich single quotes anyway. What's the problem here?
Roman numerals are encoded thusly: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, &c. Even in an Unicode world, they are.

2-digit years were a memory-saving hack that was relevant when we measured memory available in bytes, and has no place in the modern world.

They have a place in my mind: 20200113 is hard to parse, why you need dashes, 2020-01-13, and suddenly you've almost doubled the size from a nice, clean, 200113.

Here's how serious and respectable countries with well-established traditions of record-keeping handle dates:
Iceland: The number is composed of 10 digits, of which the first six are the individual's birth date or corporation's founding date in the format DDMMYY. The next two digits are chosen at random when the identification number is allocated, the ninth digit is a check digit, and the last digit indicates the century in which the individual was born (for instance, '9' for the period 1900–1999, or '0' for the period 2000–2099). An example would be 120174-3399, the person being born on the twelfth day of January 1974.
Norway: Historically, the number has been composed of the date of birth (DDMMYY), a three digit individual number, and two check digits. The individual number and the check digits are collectively known as the Personal Number. In 2017, the Norwegian Ministry of Finance approved changes to the numbering system. After the changes, the number will no longer indicate gender, and the first check digit will be 'released' to become part of the individual number.
Sweden: The number uses ten digits, YYMMDD-NNGC. The first six give the birth date in [b]YYMMDD format.[/b] Digits seven to nine (NNG) are used to make the number unique, where digit nine (G) is odd for men and even for women. For numbers issued before 1990, the seventh and eighth digit identify the county of birth or foreign-born people, but privacy-related criticism caused this system to be abandoned for new numbers. The tenth digit (C) is created using the Luhn, or "mod 10", checksum algorithm. The year a person turns 100 the hyphen with a plus sign. A common missunderstanding is that the hyphen is replaced with a plus sign when the person turns 100 years old, but according to the definition, it happens the first of January that year.
Finland: It consists of eleven characters of the form DDMMYYCZZZQ, where DDMMYY is the day, month and year of birth, C the century sign, ZZZ the individual number and Q the control character (checksum). The sign for the century is either + (1800–1899), - (1900–1999), or A (2000–2099).
Denmark: The CPR number is a ten-digit number with the format DDMMYY-SSSS, where DDMMYY is the date of birth and SSSS is a sequence number. The first digit of the sequence number encodes the century of birth (so that centenarians are distinguished from infants, 0-4 in odd centuries, 5-9 in even centuries), and the last digit of the sequence number is odd for males and even for females.

As you can see, a lot of different solutions can be used, none of which involve appending on extra junk.

The thinking man, I think, would in legacy systems use the excess space in the day field to encode the century. 01-32 1950-2049, 33-64 2050-2149, 65-96 2150-2249. After that, the months field can be used.

Nope. These databases still contain data reaching back to 1960, sometimes for regulatory purposes.

That does seem to be a problem, but presenting stuff with 4-digit years is still unacceptable. A hidden single-bit field "centuryLSB" set to 1 for the third millennium seems like a more sensible solution.

Isn't anything serious stored with Unix time anyway? Handling raw dates is just unpleasant, and at least they ought to be using Excel-style dates (Unix time / 86400). I mean, then you might as well be storing your dates as "The thirteenth of January in the year of our Lord twenty hundred and twenty". Complete clown style.

On the topic of Unix time, leap seconds are disgusting. They should have went with GPS time and had the timestamp been the amount of second-sized time intervals since the epoch. It's not like they subtract 3600 each time DST hits, right?

The past will never go away,

I implore you to read my signature.
But sure. After all, we need to compute taxes on it.
and every computer program going forward needs to be able to handle dates from any point in computing history AT A MINIMUM.

No. The applications here are games, they certainly don't. Mission-critical software shouldn't be relying on string representations of dates.

Also, two-digit years will break again in 2100, which is a single lifetime away. Three-digit years is a minimum requirement for any new software development.

Three-digit years is the worst of both worlds. Then I would rather have four, which at least encodes a legitimate concept. This is an absurd conversation anyway. What about the year 10K problem? What then, huh? Meanwhile, 253402300800 is a perfectly legitimate 64-bit integer.

Posted by kode54
I don't care if this is painful, you can't expect every single user to have identical hardware.

You can, you should, and it's regrettable they don't.
Terry Davis had the right idea, but he was too extreme. I think 24-bit 1920x1080 / Windows 7 / Stereo / 100 Mbit would be a good default. Enthusiasts can use IPS panels or homemade scaling solutions.

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Posted by CaptainJistuce
They fixed it in a fragile, non-extensible way that was guaranteed to break again, and the cost of millions of dollars and countless manhours. Because no one ever thought "Hey, maybe computers will still exist in thirty years and we should make more robust code".

Millions of dollars? I doubt it. Y2K wasn't a big problem.

Two-digit years is fine for a presentation format, but not a data format. Hyphens shouldn't be stored in the date, they're a part of the presentation, just as a choice of slashes or hyphens is presentation, or year presented at the beginning or end of the date, or even suppressed entirely.

Yeah, but you rarely have one without the other. When people argue for "four-digit dates," they want it everywhere. In theory, you're right they could be separated. In practice? See: Unix timestamps, UTC, GPS coordinates, &c.

So you're saying that [Iceland] solved the century rollover by extending the date in a backwards-compatible manner? That's fantastic!

As you can see, Iceland created a robust solution that will serve them for centuries to come without risk of overlap or confusion.

Iceland does stupid things which don't scale because they're a tiny island with large sums of money and social trust. It is heavily overrated and not a serious country. It is like arguing Dubai has a good economy. It's not strictly wrong, but that doesn't mean they have useful ideas to follow.

I would rank the systems thusly:

1. Denmark. Clean and simple system. However, no checksum is not ideal.
2. Iceland. See above.
3. Finland. 20200113A1234 is just not as clean as 19200113-1234.
4. Sweden. Mutable identifiers are not nice. They should have changed the checksum algorithm in 2000, and not removed useful information in the dashing '90s.
5. Norway. Eleven digits isn't a good look, nor is removing rather useful information from the system which will certainly cause problems in the future.

Also, birth dates on state-issued IDs are a limited case of date handling, as it is almost always obvious from other parts of the ID what century the birth date is.

Not just ID cards. All government records, basically. There was a case not long ago where they accidentally sterilized someone because they got the age wrong by 100 years because they eyeballed it from the ID number without taking a closer look. So it definitely is a problem they should be taking a closer look at solving, I think. The problem is people have been starting to be born after the millennium changeover for a while now, so whatever changes you can do will not be nice at all. The best approach would be to switch over to a common system, although it would require quite some serious engineering of all kinds.

Incidentally, my state issues an 8-digit ID number that does not encode any of that data. Birth date is presented as a separate field, in the form of MM/DD/YYYY. And did so in late twentieth century as well(I've seen my parents' old drivers licenses, and they had 4-digit years).

ID numbers are different from all this, being actually very secret information and specific to the card.
Or are you saying you have cards with DOB, ID#, and DL#?

That is a super-ugly hack. It is so revolting that I want to inflict bodily harm on you for suggesting it.
It is also incompatible with databases storing the date fields in BCD, or using ugly five-bit fields for binary storage of M and D. Or that simply store D as 0-356 and leave the month to the presentation layer.

Many of the aforementioned countries apply such systems to immigrants. It mostly works fine.
As for the objection, this is my point entirely - serious databases don't use BCD or five-bit fields. They use Unix time. Using BCD or whatever is a quasi-string date. It's reliant on the human presentation. Why should whether your dates are Julian or Gregorian be a problem for the database layer? Just use damn Unix time, which is good until 2038 unchanged, 2106 if we use the negative values (not really used atm), and basically forever with 64 bits.

No, mandatory fixed hardware standards are a terrible idea. I'm still mad at 1920x1080 becoming one. I'm glad that displays have started to advance meaningfully beyond what I was running in 1999. (1280p@70Hz > 1080p@60Hz, since we only do one-number resolutions these days.)

I'm sad 1080p is dying. All of this new stuff is just pointless. It's not a meaningful advance at all. Wow, phones now have X times more computing power. So what? It will just be used to compensate for the web developers who are getting stupider and stupider. In ten years' time, we will have smartphones which are say thirty times faster, and web developers will thus have gotten approximately thirty times stupider to compensate for it. The overall gain to society from this enterprise is limited, but the loss is tangible. In other words, it is why we can't have nice things.

I do not understand it. You put some of the smartest PhDs to have ever lived to optimize web browsers' JS engines so you can hire the dumbest fucking idiots you can find to make websites. Why? Couldn't they just hire normal people to be web developers instead? People rant about PHP being dangerous and MySQL being slow, but it's 100x better than the mess we are in now.

If they still would have to develop for users in Asia on IE6, sure they'd complain about standards and whatnot, but they would make useful websites. I use a laptop with 4 GB RAM for my daily use, and it's already hitting swap for some websites with JS enabled. It's sickening and repulsive. It ought to be disqualifying for serious web development work to have experience with JQuery, Node.JS, NoSQL databases, or Rust.

Like, seriously. How much innovation in software have we had for the last decade? Absolutely squat of value. Tor and Bitcoin got slightly better, and Monero came out. That's it. Now what did the 2000's bring? What did the 1990's bring? What did the 1980's bring?

Some observers point to this being due to the lack of a good financial crisis the past decade, so I'm keeping my hopes open.

It's clear it's not the hardware that is the problem and that people don't deserve their new toys. For each passing day, you start to wonder whether Ted really didn't have a point.

Posted by kode54
Also, since Jistuce made me read it, I thought I'd respond to it.

Fuck you, Windows 7 dies in less than two days. Good riddance, it was already replaced years ago. There are many choices for alternatives that continue to receive updates. Not the least of which is Windows 10.

If you still insist on using Windows 7, enjoy your final Update Tuesday, then indefinite silence on the updates front. Maybe Anonymous will come along and help you continue back porting patches from Windows 10 to make it a safe choice, if you trust Anonymous more than you trust, say, Microsoft with Windows 10, or your favorite Linux distribution, or your favorite BSD, since I heard all the chuds migrated to that after the EEEVIL Code of Conduct appeared.

Come on now. Windows 10? On this board?

Personally I use Debian so I'm not affected. I still maintain that Windows 7 ought to be the standard operating system, however. In Windows 8 they just broke everything for no good reason and in Windows 10 they pulled the age-old trick of "selling a solution to their problem".

On this topic, I wonder what they got him for. Was the anonymous source right? Or maybe they just made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

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Posted by tomman
(and considering the pathetic state of our hardware specs in the field, it also means W10 is not an option at all for most, so it means "Linux or GTFO"), but the reality is "nobody that matters care".

Is properly configured W10 significantly more demanding than W7? Can't you run Windows Server? That's what all the "almost privacy enthusiasts but not enthusiastic enough to use Linux" people do.

Kinda relevant: "the PC is dead, the PC is dead, the PC is dead"
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/01/13/0244242/the-end-of-windows-7-marks-the-end-of-the-pc-era-too

It is dying. The CIA want to ban compilers, and all that.

EDIT: what? Do I have three names now?

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Posted by tomman
But still, why bother injecting ads in base OS accessories!?

Would it be crude to say it's because the millennials don't want to shell out any money to buy things, and instead try to get it stuff for 'free' and/or rent it?

I mean sure, it's disgusting, but as they say, 'this is the future you chose'. You can't both have your cake and eat it. The people actively with informed consent of their own volition chose this, because they valued the flexibility, the same as with spying.

Otherwise, Microsoft doesn't have a good revenue stream. In the age of digital download and auto-update, it makes zero sense to ship discrete versions when you could just continuously auto-update. It's like complaining about Adobe switching over to CC or Firefox's version "numbering" "system" or whatever. What did you expect?

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You take a piece of paper, a ballpoint pen, and write a chart.
You could also take an old calculator, duct-tape it nearby the microwave, and store as a function 999940floor(10x/7) + 600x/7. I don't recommend this.

If you desperately want the phone to do it though, there's a trivial solution. Write a webpage, encode it all in one file using <script></script> tags, then encode it as a data URI and bookmark it. This works fine without Internet.

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Would it be crude to say it's because the millennials don't want to shell out any money to buy things

Yes, because that would not just be millennials.

This is a well-known trend, though. It is mostly the millennials driving this development, even if some non-millennials presumably also happen to have such proclivities. Look at their extreme enthusiasm for Google and Facebook and whatnot in the early 2000s for example, or their somewhat milder enthusiasm over Netflix and Amazon in the mid-2010s. This was clearly not a trend partaken in by Gen X to an equally large extent, let alone the Boomers who nurtured a (arguably healthy) skepticism of technology.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/generation-rent-how-millennials-are-fueling-lease-dont-buy-economy

I'm not going to dignify the other millennial's brash personal attacks with a response.

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Posted by funkyass
the link you posted doesn't come close to supporting your assertions, nor does it have anything to do with inserting ads into wordpad.

It does, although it's by more than one step.

Millennials are unwilling to pay upfront payments for goods. Instead, they prefer to get it for 'free' (at zero marginal fiscal cost), or by renting it. See the article I linked, or just look at the proliferation of such services (Google, Spotify, Netflix, phone carriers' financing deals, etc)

Updating software by selling a discrete new version is thus millennial-unfriendly. Therefore, companies, such as Adobe, Microsoft, and Google, switched to rolling-release models.

However, this also kills the monetization. They thus have to find an alternate revenue source: either through subscriptions or monetization. Since nobody wants to pay for the OS (historically, it was bundled by OEMs - with the death of Moore's law this is less profitable) on a monthly basis, ads are the only choice.

This would not have happened if selling new versions with useful changes were a profitable business model. It was only with the death of 'user pays for product' that software shops found it more profitable to so brazenly harm their users. Before that, there was at least some alignment of incentives - Microsoft didn't act in bad faith to cripple Windows 7, because they wanted to make a product people wanted to pay for, and Windows 8 was the beginning of the decline.

So, yes, people ostensibly do complain about spying. But the fact still remains that they use Facebook and Windows 10 of their own volition and give enthusiastic consent to it, and perhaps more importantly, would not pay for it if offered the choice. So it really is their own fault.

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First off, the rental economy - and from the link you posted, the most rented item on that graph is furniture - all of the items on that graph are physical items, as clearly stated for the major reason of either trying it out or of temporary usage, and largely because millennial don't have alot of cash to purchase with. It doesn't even mention netflix or google anywhere.

Sure. Netflix and Spotify do not qualify as a rentals, so of course they wouldn't be listed in such an article. But the "pay a small monthly fee and you get zero-margin-cost access to the library" model is gradually (well...) displacing the "buy it once and own it" model. It's only the next logical step to replace the fee with ads. Why? Because hedonistic purchases are painful. If people have to pay for a movie in order to watch it, this is pain. Having a Netflix subscription isn't - to use it should if anything be pleasurable according to sunk costs, and when the payment is due it obviously makes sense to pay for something you actually use.

You're right about millennials not having too much cash, and it's quite easy to see why and who's to blame. Still, the point stands, they choose this socially harmful activity, even if it is out of poverty. You wouldn't absolve a drug addict of blame for robbing someone, so how could you argue an activity they're enthusiastically consenting to is not something for which they can be blamed?

Secondly, The move to subscription based monetization has always been something chased after by shareholders, and its imposition was top down. To say its a model anyone wanted is lazy thinking. No one wanted to be stuck in a multi-year contract to own a phone, no one wanted a rolling release version of Windows.

Yet they do it. They freely chose to get a phone for a 'cheap monthly payment of $49.99'. They had the option not to, and buy an unlocked phone instead - in America, you can even buy SIM cards without having to present ID. Yet they didn't. Why? Because they preferred abstracting away the payment. They are the ones who have committed a moral transgression and who ought to take the blame for it, not the market.

Thirdly, adding ads to wordpad is basically taking an item someone owns and renting it with no compensation going to the owner - because software licenses let them. Or are software licenses something new Millennials lusted after?

That is bizarre - how do they own Windows or WordPad?

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Posted by CaptainJistuce
OK Boomer

I'd rather be a Boomer than a Canadian.


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I am trying to use the Internet. I am an adult, I know what I am doing. Thus, when I get a HTTPS warning, it's advised I don't visit, but there could have been some error, so I can click through it. I'd rather they just fixed HTTPS, but it's an OK compromise.

Then we get HSTS. I try to visit a website. It says, direct quote, "You can’t add an exception to visit this site ... and there is nothing you can do to resolve it." What an unbelievably smug and disgusting piece of shit attitude. I am a sophisticated user. Fine if I were using Chrome, but this isn't the case.

So I search for the common queries online. "disable hsts firefox", "firefox disable https", "firefox disable cert warnings". There should be an about:config option, right? Haha, nope.

And they told us it's just voluntary, UX is good, etc.

Has anyone solved this problem? Is there a simple tool to fix/disable HTTPS?

(I use Tor for anything interesting, so any alleged "security" concerns are complete bunk)

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Posted by tomman
Related: My site does not need HTTPS.

HTTPS there is nothing wrong with, in theory. If they would just skip the whole CA idiocy and add a DNS record "SSL" that has the hash of a public key, we would have no problem. No expired certs, no CAs, and a generally civilized system.
Posted by tomman
It's not late to join Team Seamonkey. If only we could hard-fork Mozilla...

Can I disable HTTPS or HSTS in Seamonkey? If so it is promising, although I don't think my add-ons would work.

I just want a version of Firefox that isn't actively hostile to me as a user. The problem is that this is impossible since you have a monopoly that just so happens to find itself with a negative financial interest in your user experience.

If only you'd find a solution for your hard currency problem you'd have a great arbitrage opportunity here. Work on Seamonkey and get paid in US dollars.

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Is it Canadian?
No?
I rest my case.

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Posted on 20-01-23, 23:29 in FUCK hsts
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How is this functioning as intended? You make some trivial mistake in the configuration and your site breaks. How can it ever be acceptable for a piece of software to disregard my explicit wishes?

If I attempt to delete a folder, they're going to ask me "you sure about that man?" to make sure it really is my decision. But in no case do I click yes for them to tell me "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that".

Even if it's System32. They might ask me twice. "Hey sureanem I know you clicked OK but this is serious stuff mate you sure?" But if I then click yes, it's just going to let out a resigned sigh and say "well OK if you insist then sure whatever".

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Posted by Kawa
I was not aware files that are in use could be deleted quite so easily.

Only on Windows. On Linux, it's a standard way of programming. Also, there do exist tools on Windows to do this IIRC.
And let's not get into access control, ownership...

What about them? I am restricted from doing some stuff to files owned by root but if I type in sudo then I don't have these problems anymore. It's a clear-cut example of my point: "yeah you can't do X but actually you can if you just insist on it".

If it wasn't so late for me and my laptop was still running, I'd try to delete system32 from my Win10 VM just to see if it'd let me.

I do remember doing it in a VM, and I recall they let me do it. I mean why else would the 'delete system32' meme be a thing?
Posted by tomman
I've always tempted to run rm -rf / on something to see the world burn right in front of my eyes.

It stays on but if you try to do anything it will - correctly - inform you the file can't be found.

Posted by Screwtape
HSTS is when a site administrator says "I am an adult, I know what I am doing, I'm not going to screw up my HTTPS configuration".

So when the site administrator is an adult, and the site user is an adult, who should win?

The user controls his browser, the server administrator controls his server. The server administrator shouldn't have the power to compel the USER AGENT to act in contravention of the user's agency, just as I shouldn't be able to tell the server to disregard its configuration. I tried to come up with a good example, but I couldn't, since everyone just accepts that server administrators administer their servers.

Posted by CaptainJistuce

That is LITERALLY the entire point of HSTS. If ANYTHING is wrong, the transaction CANNOT proceed. There are no fallbacks to less-secure encryption, no using known-incorrect credentials anyways JUST BECAUSE. Hence the name. HTTP Strict Transport Security.

Yeah but that doesn't make it any less of a stupid idea. Lighting a million dollars on fire is a stupid idea, but pointing out that the intent was to make a lot of money go up in smoke doesn't solve this problem.

Like, if the idea was that if you use HTTPS and get a warning you can click through it, but with HSTS you have to click through it really hard, or go to about:config or whatever, I wouldn't have a problem. Then we still preserve the user-agent property of the browser. It should follow my orders, not smugly tell me how it's a broken piece of shit by design.

It is also notable that you've previously said that end users SHOULDN'T be able to override server-side decisions re: DNS. So why change now?

I do not believe I have suggested DoH should not be disableable in about:config. That would be absurd. As much of the browser as reasonably possible should be configurable in there. I just believe it's a bad idea for applications to use the OS' settings, when the only reason for such settings is to perform reprehensible acts.
With that being said, I don't understand why Firefox doesn't respect /etc/hosts. Like, dude, it's one file query. This should not be hard. You're 200 megabytes of code deep already. Just add an about:config switch to parse /etc/hosts in the browser level.

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