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USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me)? 
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 USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me)?
I DID use the search feature, and I did see a few threads talking briefly about some experience with USB adapters, but...not quite enough to feel like I have a grasp on what's out there and how good they are.

So, I'm curious. Are there any GOOD USB adapters for controllers on the NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, etc.? Input lag should be pretty minimal, with preferably little to no installation concerns (like drivers, firmware, additional software, whatever; setting up controls in an emulator is not what I'm talking about), and ideally should work with any original controllers, not only with certain models (like I've heard some have issues with certain SNES controller models sometimes? blah).

Are there any good retro USB controllers that are worth bypassing the adapter and going straight for the controller?

I've been trying to do research, and I'm not getting as many helpful reviews as I'd like before making any purchases.

I ask because not only do I want a more authentic (and, often, better) playing experience, but I'm also wanting to do a Let's Play series where I try to show the games in their original forms. This means emulating where I have to, playing on original hardware when possible, which will also involve me having to get a capture card (XCapture-1 still recommended?), and ideally something like the Framemeister, SCART cables, a modded NES, etc., but that's a whole 'nuther beast.

I trust you geniuses.

Also I found Firebrand's pixel purist site. Sweet, though the SNES model stuff started to stress me out near the end, haha!


2015-07-07 06:18

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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
People seem to have good luck with the Mayflash adapters.

The iBuffalo USB SNES pad is a perennial favorite (I have one, it's great quality) EDIT: whoops, the other one I posted was an SNES replacement.


2015-07-07 13:48
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
Beta blissbox review by Racketboy

https://youtu.be/HE2uLkRKsEA


2015-07-07 18:34
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
hunterk wrote:
People seem to have good luck with the Mayflash adapters.

The iBuffalo USB SNES pad is a perennial favorite (I have one, it's great quality) EDIT: whoops, the other one I posted was an SNES replacement.


The Mayflash looked decent, I just wasn't sure if I was missing anything.

panzeroceania wrote:
Beta blissbox review by Racketboy

https://youtu.be/HE2uLkRKsEA


Man...that seems too good to be true. What a great piece of hardware!

Has anybody actually used the Hori Minipad for the N64? I like the Gamecube analog stick well enough for GCN games that were designed for it's higher level of sensitivity, but every time I've played an N64 game with a Gamecube controller or the Wii Classic Controller Pro or whatever, the analog stick is always too sensitive for the N64 games, like Mario or Zelda or whatever, and it makes it really tough to maneuver. Is that the same experience any of you have had with the Hori Minipad?


2015-07-07 19:06

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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
The Blissbox kickstarter failed. Are they still going to make them?

I've never used the Horis but I modded one of my regular N64 controllers with a gamecube-style stick and it is indeed much more sensitive (and durable). It's great/superior for some games, like mario party, but way inferior for ones that require fine control, like Goldeneye (reticle aiming is basically impossible with them).


2015-07-07 19:17
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
hunterk wrote:
The Blissbox kickstarter failed. Are they still going to make them@


Looks like it. It's really hard not to pre-order one.


2015-07-07 19:37
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
RetroUSB's stuff is pretty good in my experience, but maybe a bit on the expensive side for what it is. In addition to adapters, they do sell authentic first-party controllers with spliced USB plugs, but those are usually sold out (probably to be expected when you only use old official pads and not make new ones). But the adapters are almost always in-stock.

If you want GameCube controllers, you can't do any better than MayFlash's clone of Nintendo's own USB-GC adapter. Not only does it work with SSB4 on Wii U, but it also works perfectly in Dolphin with zero remapping, as well as has a switch that lets you run in "PC mode", acting as a generic gamepad for other apps.

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2015-07-07 20:44
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
Covarr wrote:
RetroUSB's stuff is pretty good in my experience, but maybe a bit on the expensive side for what it is. In addition to adapters, they do sell authentic first-party controllers with spliced USB plugs, but those are usually sold out (probably to be expected when you only use old official pads and not make new ones). But the adapters are almost always in-stock.

If you want GameCube controllers, you can't do any better than MayFlash's clone of Nintendo's own USB-GC adapter. Not only does it work with SSB4 on Wii U, but it also works perfectly in Dolphin with zero remapping, as well as has a switch that lets you run in "PC mode", acting as a generic gamepad for other apps.

My Mayflash 3-in-1 GC adapter has a bit of lag. Is the WiiU adapter lag-free?

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2015-07-10 05:13
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
jimbo1qaz wrote:
Covarr wrote:
RetroUSB's stuff is pretty good in my experience, but maybe a bit on the expensive side for what it is. In addition to adapters, they do sell authentic first-party controllers with spliced USB plugs, but those are usually sold out (probably to be expected when you only use old official pads and not make new ones). But the adapters are almost always in-stock.

If you want GameCube controllers, you can't do any better than MayFlash's clone of Nintendo's own USB-GC adapter. Not only does it work with SSB4 on Wii U, but it also works perfectly in Dolphin with zero remapping, as well as has a switch that lets you run in "PC mode", acting as a generic gamepad for other apps.

My Mayflash 3-in-1 GC adapter has a bit of lag. Is the WiiU adapter lag-free?

TBH, I don't have this device myself, so I can only go on the general consensus of the internet. For starters, no such device is going to be completely lag free; there's a guaranteed 6ms minimum latency just for using USB. That's a third of a frame right there. I did a quick search and found several people claiming the lag is unnoticeable, and a few saying they measured it lower than previous Mayflash adapters. I found one review saying it was a half second lag, but I kinda suspect he had a defective unit, because that's crazy high and I can't believe nobody else would notice that much. Especially the guys at Smashboards, who seem to like this adapter.

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2015-07-10 14:41
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 Re: USB Adapters for Retro Controllers (please don't kill me
A single addition of less than 10ms to indirect input methods (e.g. buttons and analog sticks) can go unnoticed, but it messes with certain games. It's the same reason as how some games are just really fucking hard on emulators for no reason other than not having the same timing as real hardware.


2015-07-10 21:31
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