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 What is the most demanding games to test CPU? +RESULTS
Hi, this is my first topic so, if I did anything wrong, sorry. (And sorry for my english too... I know its not good at all)

I'm planning to buy a Vostro 3350 laptop (i5 2450M 2.5GHz to 3.1GHz) to become my emulator laptop. I'll buy it because of the Radeon and the possibility to use it with CRT Emudriver to plug it into my 29' CRT TV.

I'm with a HP DM4 (Core i5 2430M, 2.4GHz to 3.0GHz) to repair, and I want to test it with the most demanding games to know if it will have any performance problems, since the performance of both are close.

So I'm asking opinions about what games should I test to know if I'll have any problems. I'm focus on SNES and Genesis, because I believe they are the most CPU demanding.

With the Vostro I have the possibility to upgrade it to a i7-2620M (2.7GHz to 3.4GHz, 11,3% faster) or i7-2640M (2.8GHz to 3.5GHz, 13,9% faster) if necessary, but I'm limited to 35W TDP.


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Putting the data from this topic,

2450M - 3.1GHz/46fps = 67,39MHz/fps
3520M - 3.4GHz/55fps = 61,81MHz/fps (This CPU goes up to 3.6GHz, but Windows says it tops at 3.4GHz)
4200M - 3.1GHz/57fps = 54,38MHz/fps
4670 - 3.8GHz/71fps = 53,52MHz/fps
7490 - 4.4GHz/88fps = 50,00MHz/fps

There's a huge improvement from 2nd to 4th generation, and the 3rd are in the middle of both. 4th to 7th generation didn't improved a lot...


Thanks :)


2017-06-30 17:26
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
Hayazashii Nidan Morita Shougi 2.

Not joking.

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2017-06-30 17:31

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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
byuu wrote:
Hayazashii Nidan Morita Shougi 2.

Not joking.


Thanks for the tip... I googled a few pictures of this game and, now I know why you focused the "Not joking"... It don't has fancy graphics at all. It has a good AI that pushes the the console to the limits or are just bugged and forces the console in the process?


2017-06-30 17:40
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
The most demanding emulator in higan is the PC Engine emulator, with Game Boy Advance as a close second.

I don't know if the Mega Drive (Genesis) has any truly demanding games that slow higan down. It performs quite decently even on my 2010 computer (Intel i7 860 at 2.8 GHz) despite having little optimization. If higan emulates the Sega Virtua Processor some day, then Virtua Racing could easily be the most demanding Mega Drive game then.

The Super Famicom (Super NES) has multiple games that use coprocessors, and depending on your tastes, the most demanding game you need to worry about will change. byuu already mentioned this, but without making any filters for popularity or personal tastes, by far the most demanding game will be Hayazashi Nidan Morita Shougi 2. That game uses the ST-018, an ARMv3 CPU and the most powerful expansion chip any Super Famicom game has ever used.

If you're only looking at the more popular Super Famicom (Super NES) games, try Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and Kirby Super Star (SA-1) or Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island and Star Fox (Super FX).

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2017-06-30 17:47

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hex_usr wrote:
The most demanding emulator in higan is the PC Engine emulator, with Game Boy Advance as a close second.

I don't know if the Mega Drive (Genesis) has any truly demanding games that slow higan down. It performs quite decently even on my 2010 computer (Intel i7 860 at 2.8 GHz) despite having little optimization. If higan emulates the Sega Virtua Processor some day, then Virtua Racing could easily be the most demanding Mega Drive game then.

The Super Famicom (Super NES) has multiple games that use coprocessors, and depending on your tastes, the most demanding game you need to worry about will change. byuu already mentioned this, but without making any filters for popularity or personal tastes, by far the most demanding game will be Hayazashi Nidan Morita Shougi 2. That game uses the ST-018, an ARMv3 CPU and the most powerful expansion chip any Super Famicom game has ever used.

If you're only looking at the more popular Super Famicom (Super NES) games, try Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and Kirby Super Star (SA-1) or Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island and Star Fox (Super FX).


Nice to know... But since I'll focus on the NES/SNES and Master System/Genesis, I don't need to worry about GBA hehehe
About the MD/Genesis.... Well... MD/Genesis has the OMFG "Blast Processor" kkkkkkk. Jokes aside, Virtua Processor is more powerful than SuperFX?
I'll try that Hayazashi game tonight... If my friend's laptop can run it, I'll have no problems at all :)

Thanks for the help :D


2017-06-30 18:01
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
It doesn't really matter what system/chip is the most powerful (though that's a rough indicator), it depends more on how easy it is to emulate.

Anyway, for selecting a CPU you would need to compare the single-thread performance.

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2017-06-30 18:33

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creaothceann wrote:
It doesn't really matter what system/chip is the most powerful (though that's a rough indicator), it depends more on how easy it is to emulate.

Anyway, for selecting a CPU you would need to compare the single-thread performance.


My future i5-2450 has 1404 pts in this chart. The i7-2620M (easier to find than 2640M) has 1563 pts. They are enough?


2017-06-30 19:10
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
Don't know if that's enough, but my i7-4790K (third on the list) runs at 4.4GHz, gets 2530 points on the website and 88fps on SNES Super Mario World 2's title screen (the rotating island).

Maybe the points don't matter that much, but the frequency does? 3.1GHz / 4.4 GHz = 0.70{45}, multiplied with 88 is exactly 62. So based on the raw clock speed 3GHz might be enough for 60fps. The i5-2450M has 3MB L3 cache and the i7-4790K has 8, which might be one reason for a slowdown.

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2017-06-30 21:59
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
To throw out another data point, my i5-4670@3.4GHz, with a single-thread score of 2152, gets 71fps on the Yoshi's Island 2 spinning title screen, and 52-56fps on Hayazashii Nidan Morita Shougi 2 in attract mode, using higan v102.

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2017-06-30 22:27
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 Re: What is the most demanding games to test CPU?
*whips out Excel*

Based on that and my results above, the i5-2450M @ 3.1GHz would get ~1962 points and ~65fps. The website shows a score of 1404 though, so the fps might be lower.

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2017-06-30 23:12
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