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Posted on 19-08-18, 07:55 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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What's the point of the horizontal lines?



The stripes in the background are to check the vertical rhythm, and are not part of the Typesetter stylesheet proper. You can toggle them on and off.

Oops, that's a bit embarrassing.

What about bigger text? Both of the readability-focused websites I read, Bloomberg and Gwern.net, tend to be quite a bit bigger than default. Not sure by how much though, since a pixel isn't always a pixel in web design terms.



There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-18, 14:25 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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If it is MITM, I'd reckon they'd get caught pretty quickly. It's trivial to run a script that tries to connect to some site across all exit nodes and see which ones mess with the cert, report it, and get them banned. And it happens across several nodes, so I wouldn't think that's it. Right now it works fine, so it's very possible they fixed it.

...I could have sworn I took a screenshot of it, but apparently not.

The current hierarchy is DST -> LE -> helmet, so are you sure it doesn't follow it?

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-18, 16:23 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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OK, now it gave me the error again. "Certificate Hierarchy" just contained "helmet.kafuka.org," SHA-256 fingerprint was "B5:92:85:CD:89:16:38:D9:3B:31:49:22:F6:36:CA:59:10:7A:50:BB:9F:54:30:93:5A:12:11:06:18:3B:74:79,", issuer was "Let's Encrypt Authority X3," and Certificate Authority Key Identifier was "a8 4a 6a 63 04 7d dd ba e6 d1 39 b7 a6 45 65 ef
f3 a8 ec a1," which by all accounts seems to be Let's Encrypt.

The error in boldface on top is, "Could not verify this certificate because the issuer is unknown."

Here's the certificate, but I wouldn't think it's been tampered with:


...And after a few minutes of looking stuff up, I opened the certificate info box up again. It showed up as "Verifying certificate...," and then marked it as valid, with a filled in hierarchy and everything. So I would guess it tried to fetch the intermediate certificates from the URL in the certificate, but it took them some time.

When I go to about:preferences#privacy and open the Certificate Manager, it indeed does not show Let's Encrypt, but it does show DST Root CA X3.

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-19, 16:45 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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Posted by Screwtape
I was trying to go for contrast without being boring and monochromatic, so I picked a nice, pale yellow. If there's some reputably-recommended readable colour-scheme I'm interested, but honestly, there's a reason I put all the colouring in a separate CSS file. For my own site, I just went with Solarized because that's my go-to answer for anything colour-scheme related.

How about black (dark gray) on (light) salmon, like business newspapers?

The Financial Times use #33302e / #fff1e5. That looks very nice, I think, although it shouldn't be ideal - reddish text on salmon background isn't exactly optimal from what I gather.

The blue in your page (#333350 / #fffcf0) is a bit overpowering, I also think. You should almost be able to use color theory to pick FG color given BG color, or vice versa. Keep in mind to use a 'corrected' model like CIE. How dark is a judgement call though. But if you use FT's BG color, and pick the color opposite on the corrected color wheel with the same lightness as their foreground color, that suggests #25323b should be a good choice for them. For you, #33363f in the same manner.

I have no way of testing this, since I'm using an extremely poorly calibrated TN panel. It does look a bit less blue, that's my only observation.

Perhaps if you wanted to avoid picking a foreground color as well, maybe you could use the Pantone definition of salmon, although it seems really dark and saturated.

It's nice to see people putting effort into measuring such things, but if I read the first bit of that page correctly, "success" means "the user stayed on the page for at least 40 seconds. I'm sure they're accurately measuring *something*, but I'm not sure it's a metric I personally care about.

I think it's all the same. If people stay longer, they stay longer. But it's definitely a bit crude.

He did do better testing with the ad blocking experiments, when he split the days up semi-randomly and measured traffic - this also takes into account increases in the virality, returning traffic, etc.

It's a shame there isn't a more 'scientific' approach to this - we do have A/B testing, but rarely with results made public.

Yeah, somebody else mentioned [paragraph indent/spacing]. I'll definitely change it.

Which one will you get rid of?

I assume by "width" you mean "height". Keeping a consistent line-height is very deliberate, and is the main thing I wanted to achieve when I set out - text feels more consistent with a vertical rhythm, and less like a bunch of separate blocks pasted together.

Fair enough.

The book I'm working from is very consistent about vertical rhythm in the main body, but it does use a smaller line-height for footnotes (at the bottom of the page) and side-notes (in the left or right margins). Unfortunately, HTML doesn't really have footnotes as such, and although I use the HTML5 <aside> for side-notes, if the browser is narrow enough they get folded back into the main body. I'll think about using a smaller line-height for side-notes that actually appear on the side, but I'll tackle paragraph spacing first.

It has smaller text, though. Some books put paragraphs of lesser importance in smaller text, without demoting them to footnotes per se.

The book I am reading right now usually has 37 lines/page, but 41 for translator footnotes, comments, inline footnotes, and paragraphs of lesser importance. The relative line heights look to be about the same, so the font size should differ by around 10%.
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Blank line plus REVERSE indentation. Fight me.

This looks OK, but it's a bit inefficient. Imagine indent for (almost) each line, that's a lot of wasted space.

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Personally, I just use autocomplete. Far more robust than copy-paste, in my opinion. It however uses backslashes, unless you initiate with a quote, which is even uglier.

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-19, 17:31 in Board feature requests/suggestions
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Yes, that is what happens. Except for the part where it sometimes randomly works if you directly navigate to it with a clean browser, and sometimes randomly begins to work despite loading no other websites. It seems like it works more often to load it from bookmark than to go to helmet.kafuka.org, go to bboard/, and then click the HTTPS icon. But this could just be spurious/superstition.

It has to verify them by hash, so I'd say it's quite secure.

The certificate does include URL of the parent certificate, so it could be that it tries to fetch it based on my connection speed, which is random, which causes the non-deterministic behavior. That could explain why it sometimes loads instantly.

Another hypothesis is that some post contained an embed going to a Let's Encrypt secured page complete with proper chain, that forces a cert download, boom, complete chain. I think this is what happens.

To reproduce:
1) open TBB
2) go to https://helmet.kafuka.org/bboard
-> red sometimes, green sometimes
3) add temp exception (if green, make new identity and try again)
4) mess around in options, refresh page, etc
-> nothing happens, still orange
5) open all threads from last post in new tab
6) "View certificate"
-> Currently verifying...
-> green

But the big mystery is why it sometimes DOESN'T show up as red.

Man, to hell with SSL. How many people get false impressions of security from the magic green lock? How many people get Pavlov'd into clicking through all warnings? (see: Windows executable signing) And most importantly, why tolerate this atrocious single point of failure? We're not far out from seeing HTTP getting the same warnings as HTTPS with self-signed cert does, and then blocked outright eventually (where there is no override button and you have to go into about:config). Then maybe ISPs will block it, like they did for SMTP, but I doubt it (after all, our Chinese IoT makers must access their APIs)

And after that, we will have a complete oligopoly. Good luck publishing such tracts if the CA cartel doesn't allow them. They've null-routed entire ASNs for hosting legal but controversial websites, so why wouldn't refusing to issue a certificate - an active rather than passive action, most definitely within their prerogative - be a valid action likewise?

Completely unironically, this is a problem that The Blockchain™ solves in a cheap, efficient, and safe manner.

/rant

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-19, 20:28 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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It does everything else I want, so why bother? Only gripe is that the RAM is a bit thin, but I don't think 4GB of laptop RAM is too expensive anyway.

I have tried IPS monitors, and I couldn't tell a difference to my (much nicer) 1080p TN monitor. Personally, I think they're overrated, just like SSDs. For desktop use, a nice cable (the one I have now is too low-resolution) is on the shopping list, eventually.

Why don't you take your expensive monitor and verify whether that color scheme looks better instead?

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Posted on 19-08-19, 22:23 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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Say what!? Now I know you're trolling. If there's one advancement in computing that isn't overblown it's SSDs. The performance difference from less latency in random access is very significant. On top of that they don't make noise, consume less power, and aren't susceptible to head crashes.

They're also more expensive, which is the #1 determinant of anything and by default makes them far inferior to regular hard drives.
Performance is fine with HDD, and noise is easily dwarfed by anything else (e.g. CPU fan). Power is never an issue.
Also, they have creepy chips inside them. Who knows if you can trust them? Granted, I use FDE, but it's still creepy.
I do have one inside my laptop and it works fine, but it's bloody tiny. For that price you could have a 1TB HDD, which is far more useful.
(inb4 "why not both" - I don't have infinity dollars)

I wouldn't seriously throw a laptop away, but IPS and VA are objectively better than TN. It's perfectly fine if the difference just doesn't seem like a big deal to you, personally. To each his own.

Yeah, if I had infinite time and money I would obviously buy an IPS monitor - I don't play video games much anymore, so the downsides are negligible. But at present, it feels like an utter non-issue which brings no tangible value to the table, unlike mechanical keyboards and good mice which are at least nicer to use. Although touchpads are fine when you get used to them.

Posted by funkyass
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Ditto.

I have a monitor, it has DVI (both kinds) and HDMI ports. HDMI port was broken since I bought it - could have RMA'd, but I was only interested in DVI anyway. Laptop has VGA and HDMI out. Had another monitor too, a smaller VGA one. So I got a VGA <-> VGA cable, but it turned out to be too low-resolution for that one too. I'm not even sure if it works with the DVI adapter, I think I tried it and there was some sort of issue. So I'd need a DVI <-> HDMI adapter, or a better VGA cable.

To be honest, I feel kind of like Jack here. When you buy computer hardware, you tell yourself, that’s it. That’s the last GPU I’ll need. Whatever else happens, got that GPU problem handled. I had it all. I had a monitor that was very decent. A Steam library that was getting very respectable. I was close to being complete.

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-20, 14:22 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable (revision 1)
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Yeah anyway, I digress.

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The Financial Times use #33302e / #fff1e5. That looks very nice, I think, although it shouldn't be ideal - reddish text on salmon background isn't exactly optimal from what I gather.

That looks pretty nice, although I'd feel a bit awkward straight-up stealing somebody's colour-scheme unless it was deliberately made available, like Solarized.

Black on salmon-pink is standard for such newspapers, and Pantone have described it as "bisque," which is a perfectly standard X11 color (#ffe4c4), if a bit dark. Ironically, Pantone's "bisque" is completely off.

So try taking the average between X11 bisque and white (#fff1e1), this is almost identical to newspaper salmon pink (#fff1e5) while being A-OK to use.

I got rid of the blank lines between paragraphs; the demonstration site is updated. I also made a bunch of other changes following the example and instruction of the typography book I'm following:

...

Ideally I'd use <h1> for the document title, <h2> for sections and <h3> for sub-sections, but Markdown only makes <h1> and <h2> pleasant to use, so either I use h2 for sections and lose subsections, or have the document title look the same as a section heading.

So I'm not *entirely* happy with the way the stylesheet looks now, but I can't think of any changes that are likely to improve *every* semantic-markup HTML document - it seems like every improvement for one document makes a different document worse.

Don't you just add more pound signs?
# ... # - h1
## ... ## - h2
### ... ### - h3

A minor gripe is the aggressive hyphenation. I don't think code should be hyphenated, for instance. "src/typeset- \n ter*.less" looks completely wrong, to me.

Also, I think the code should have a bit more spacing. The exclamation mark after "typesetter.css" is a bit too snug, at least to me.

On my machine (1000x600), the navigation on the demo page gets cut off, about half of the "N" in "Navigation" is hidden and I get an ugly horizontal scroll bar (which only goes to the right). It looks like it's just at the breakpoint, but it probably shouldn't be so snug anyway. Maybe add a margin-left to the <nav>?

EDIT: deleted OT

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-20, 14:47 in I still HATE smartdevices
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How bad are things? Do you have, like, flash drives or CD disks?

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Posted on 19-08-20, 15:26 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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Ideally I'd use <h1> for the document title, <h2> for sections and <h3> for sub-sections, but Markdown only makes <h1> and <h2> pleasant to use, so either I use h2 for sections and lose subsections, or have the document title look the same as a section heading.

I was just curious about this statement here.

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I remember libvirt/QEMU as being okay to use. What's the downside?


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It has a nice GUI called virt-manager. I can't remember using 3D acceleration, but Arch Wiki says it exists.

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Posted on 19-08-22, 17:11 in Typesetter.css, make semantic HTML readable
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Black on salmon-pink is standard for such newspapers

This surprises me. The only similar publications I can think of are Bloomberg and the Australian Financial Review, and neither of them are pink. In fact, the article you link says "The paper, first published in 1888, tinted its pages in 1893 to distinguish itself from its rival", so I'm guessing it's not actually a standard for such newspapers after all.

It is. El Economista (MX), Handelsblatt, and Het Financieele Dagblad are all printed in salmon-pink, for instance. Likewise, the business (and sports) sections of other newspapers tend to be in pink.
It's entirely possible the Financial Times started the practice, though. They are after all the gold standard, and there's no shame in imitating a gold standard.

So, Markdown supports two different heading syntaxes: ATX headings with the leading hashes (inherited from ATX), and Setex headings (inherited from Setext), which look like this:

...

As a purely personal opinion, I love Setext headings and hate ATX headings. Setext headings *look* like headings, even in plain text, while ATX headings sometimes get confused with hashtags. A level-1 Setext header uses more "ink", so it looks more important than a level-2 Setext header, while a level-1 ATX header looks *less* important than a level-2 ATX header.

I seem to recall people writing non-Markdown ATX-style headings in forum posts many years back. But yeah, to each their own.

Letting inline code stretch rightward forever is ugly, force-wrapping it with a hyphen is (potentially) misleading, and force-wrapping it without a hyphen is also (potentially) misleading). I guess we probably shouldn't insert glyphs into what is supposed to be a verbatim string, though.

You could force-wrap it if the line alone exceeds the line length, and else have it wrap before starting the code block if at all. I don't know if CSS supports this, though.

That's entirely up to the fonts your browser has chosen, I'm afraid. It probably defaults to Times New Roman and/or Ariel; I recommend reconfiguring your browser to something nicer.

Alas, not possible. It's using standard web fonts, which means Arial since it's marked sans-serif.
But for instance GitHub doesn't have this problem. There it gets "padding: .2em .4em;" and "font-size: 85%;". For word-wrap, it uses break-word for everything. I think that looks nicer, although the shading might not be too professional.

I'm using a CSS media-query to move the <nav> and <aside> elements to the margins, when there's enough room for them. Unfortunately for me, browsers define the "viewport width" to include the width of the vertical scrollbar, even though that space isn't available for my content. I'd changed the media-query to add a bit of safety margin, so the wide layout should only be used when you really, truly have enough room for it... unless your browser's default text size is smaller than your operating system's scrollbar size.

Yeah, that looks much better. Apparently it's to prevent an infinite loop, which does make sense. Kind of like how you can get some really fun stuff to happen with :hover and animations.

As an aside, I wonder if that's Turing-complete. They already managed to get it Turing-complete if you repeatedly clicked somewhere, but could you accomplish the same thing by just hovering over an element?

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Posted on 19-08-23, 00:19 in Mozilla, *sigh*
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Update

Prediction was wrong.

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In which the Americans freeze bitcoin accounts.

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Posted on 19-08-23, 00:26 in Blackouts
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Posted by https://www.ft.com/content/1120377e-c4c8-11e9-a8e9-296ca66511c9
US senses breakthrough in Venezuela crisis

Contact with Maduro’s de facto deputy may unlock solution to political stalemate

Michael Stott, Latin America editor
August 22, 2019

He is variously known as a drug trafficker, a thug, a loyal revolutionary and the power behind the throne in Venezuela.
But his friends and enemies agree on one thing: Diosdado Cabello is one of the most important links in the chain holding up President Nicolás Maduro’s government.

So when news emerged this week that Mr Cabello had met a US intermediary for secret talks about a possible solution to Venezuela’s long-running political crisis, all sides rushed to put their own spin on the development.
Venezuela has slid into one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises, with up to a quarter of its population fleeing abroad as refugees. Years of misrule by the hard-left government have shrunk gross domestic product by more than half and destroyed oil production. Sweeping US sanctions have choked most remaining economic activity.

Propped up by Russia, Cuba and China, Mr Maduro’s government is clinging to power after what was widely seen as a rigged election last year. It has refused opposition demands for fresh elections and an interim government headed by Juan Guaidó, the head of the National Assembly and the man recognised by the US and more than 50 other mainly Western nations as Venezuela’s rightful leader.

The stalemate between Mr Maduro and Mr Guaidó has persisted throughout this year, dashing US hopes of an early end to the crisis and forcing Washington to consider other ways of achieving a breakthrough, such as covert talks with the regime.

Trump administration officials have talked before about contacts with other high-ranking Maduro government members. But they hailed news of a meeting with Mr Cabello as a breakthrough, saying it signified growing disarray at the heart of the Chavista government. According to Associated Press, which first reported the contact, it took place in Caracas last month, and a second encounter is planned.

“There have been multiple talks with over half a dozen officials in competing centres of power around Maduro,” said one senior US official. “He should wake up to the fact that these conversations are about a transition to end his power grab.”

“The constant themes in all conversations were: how to get out of the crisis, how to find an exit for Maduro, and how to save their own skins and those of their families, not necessarily in that order.”

Not surprisingly, Mr Maduro did not see it that way. Speaking during the opening of a bus terminal in the Caribbean port of La Guaira on Tuesday, the Venezuelan leader joked about revealing a secret to his audience before confirming that talks between his government and the Trump administration had taken place during the past few months “under my express and direct authorisation”.

Looking relaxed and confident, Mr Maduro said that if Mr Trump ever wanted to talk seriously about a plan to solve the Venezuela conflict, he was always open to it.

“Whether or not Maduro knows about the conversations, it’s clever of him to indicate that he does,” said one former senior US official with experience in Venezuela. “The whole purpose is to let his supporters know that the Americans have given up on the Venezuelan opposition and are now talking to him.”

Vanessa Neumann, Mr Guaidó’s envoy to the UK, said the Venezuelan opposition was pursuing a multipronged strategy to end the crisis, and the latest contacts between Mr Cabello and the US were part of that. “We will do anything it takes. We will go anywhere and talk to anyone,” she said. “The race is on to see who betrays whom. The regime will be broken by a lack of loyalty.”

Those close to developments in Caracas said Mr Cabello is a particularly important figure not just because he is head of the National Constituent Assembly, a rival parliament set up by Mr Maduro after the opposition won the formal parliament, or because of his media reach via a weekly television programme. His military credentials as a former soldier who fought alongside Hugo Chávez also matter to the powerful armed forces, whose confidence he enjoys.

Noting that Washington had negotiated successfully with Mr Cabello before, when he agreed in 2015 to hold national assembly elections, which were subsequently won by the opposition, the former senior US official said: “I do think a deal is there to be done. The issue is that Maduro and his government are not going to rely on guarantees made by the US or the [opposition] for their security and wellbeing.”

“Both sides are trying to use these revelations against the other,” said Geoff Ramsey, a Venezuela expert at the Washington Office on Latin America. “Only they will know exactly what was discussed but the fact both Maduro and Trump have admitted being in touch is an implicit recognition of the need for some kind of meaningful, bigger negotiations to resolve the crisis.”

Mr Cabello is believed to want to lead Chavista forces in any future elections, which poses problems for a US administration that has publicly denounced him as a drug trafficker, a money launderer and an embezzler. Instead, Washington is hoping that Mr Maduro’s government will crumble amid internal divisions. John Bolton, Mr Trump’s national security adviser, has compared the key figures in the regime to “scorpions in a bottle, staring each other down, waiting to see who stings first”.

But after so many false dawns for opposition hopes in Venezuela, observers are cautious. “It could be hyperactive paralysis,” said Nicholas Watson, who leads Latin America political risk coverage for consultancy firm Teneo. “Lots of parts moving but nothing is actually happening.”

Additional reporting by Gideon Long in Bogotá


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Thoughts? Never heard of this guy. Is he any important? What exactly does him talking to the US entail?

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
Posted on 19-08-23, 16:52 in Blackouts
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The Americans? Or Mr Cabello?

They did try a military coup d'etat, to be fair. What more can they do, short of an outright invasion? They're not Mossad, you know.

That is actually quite an interesting point. We don't get any Venezuelans, just the usual clientele, but it does make you think. These are young military-age men. Shouldn't they stay behind and fight for one side or the other? Traditionally, it would have been women and children, who then say thank you and promptly leave whenever the war is over. This clearly isn't what's going on here. And it does really make you think when you hear about them going on vacation to the alleged warzones from which they were allegedly fleeing, or when they stay for long enough that war #1 has time to end and war #2 to begin.

I had a curious discussion with such a fellow the other day. His argument was the kind which seems to make sense at first, but the more you think about it, the more confounded you get. The thesis was essentially that he had a good education (philosophy or something like that) and couldn't wholeheartedly support either side over various details (the kind of subtleties which one needs a real good education to understand and care about), and as such he shouldn't 'throw [his education] away' - his words, not mine - by fighting for his fatherland. If he had such a good education, why couldn't he find a job in one of the non-at war countries? To be fair, he was ostensibly planning on returning as soon as the war is over.

It's an interesting position, for sure. And now the UN people are claiming the economy/infrastructure is too bad for them to return - not joking, it's listed under "Conditions against return" on the Wikipedia page:
The UNHCR stated that conditions in Syria are still unsafe and destitute, improvements in many areas are uncertain and many basic services are absent; access of aid convoys is also a challenge.[8] Less than a half of the returnees have access to water or health services, due to extremely damaged infrastructure. An estimated 10 per cent ended up as internally displaced persons once again.[9]

That's an interesting position, but who is to rebuild this mess if not the Syrians? Is it just the official position of the West now that whenever war erupts in some third-world country somewhere, the whole population has to move to the West, then the UN rebuilds the country for them, and then they supposedly will move back voluntarily when they've lived abroad for long enough to gain passports.

It's a sick joke and a giant fraud. And yet, they're bringing in however many more supposedly temporary alleged refugees without a care in the world. Pray tell, when are the last batch to bugger off? Oh, what's that, never, because they now hold passports?

/rant

Seriously though, what do you think ought to be done? Murdering random gov't officials in the streets? Western-backed military intervention? CIA color revolution? CIA coup d'etat? Easing the sanctions to get the economy off its back?

Not trying to put you on the spot here or anything - you seem to think violent revolution is a good solution, but you clearly aren't in prison, or else you presumably wouldn't be posting here. So what's the next, step of your, master plan?

There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this.
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If that does happen, then can't the PRC act with impunity? It's only with regard to Hong Kong that they have to maintain a thin veneer of legitimacy, on the mainland they can do whatever they want.

What the West could do is realize that this kind of stuff will only ever get worse if they do nothing and then proceed to back Hong Kong. Which, obviously, it will not do but will rather proceed to eventually suffer the same fate as Africa. But they could and should do that, I think.

EDIT: A new challenger appears! And the Federal Reserve are even closing ranks behind their country! I am feeling optimistic about the future!

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>the commies don't need any excuse to land you at the hole, then "dissapearing" you, just like it happens to dozens of people every day, from those that dare complaining at the ATM line to political dissidents.

Right, but in the sense that you haven't gunned down any government officials or anything - then I presume you wouldn't be posting here. I am just asking, what do you think should be done for the country?

>Seriously sureanem, you SHOULD move here, instead to believing whatever weirdass bullshit you love to read.

What's the weird-ass bullshit I'm reading, you mean? I can't remember posting much positive stuff about your government, other than "bad government is better than no government," which was not intended as praise.

>Just wondering, you already know where I am from, but from what weirdass country are you?

Well then, I am from Scandinavia. Very good guesses, though. I would never have thought Singapore, but it does probably fit with what I've posted on here, cashless society and all.

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