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Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by james4591
The last company you want as a leader in GNU/Linux is Red Hat. Literally, they are the Microsoft of GNU/Linux. Ubuntu is no better.

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by CaptainJistuce

Because Red Hat forced through Pulseaudio and Systemd. I think IBM paid so much to buy Red Hat so they could stop it from fucking things up any further.

Posted by james4591

Red Hat and Canonical provide a lot of software to GNU/Linux but equally they cause many problems to the ecosystem of UNIX-like systems trying to cut off support to systems like FreeBSD and other UNIX-like systems and UNIX based systems to create their dreamy Linux-only ecosystem. Remember Lennart once called FreeBSD a "toy operating system that wasn't to be taken seriously" and even threatened Gentoo over kdbus and udev from their eudev fork saying once they got rid of netlink in the kernel people would be "forced" to use systemd and their udev implementation and if anyone though otherwise and tried to blame Lennart they were basically idiots who should be ignored. That's healthy thinking and one of the reasons many people started seeing GNU/Linux as too much of a mess. All one guy introduced was a piece of fadware meant for hipsters that did nothing but the same as a collection of tools that had existed already for years, stirred up a hornets nest of controversy, refused to be a team player, and then when he got put into check by even someone threatening to pay bitcoins to have him "offed", he cried foul, turned tail, and ran away like the sniveling coward he was still tryign to say nothing was "his" fault. Doug McIlroy's philosophy of "write programs that do one thing, and do them well", was completely ignored by the systemd team. They created the equivalent of svchost.exe in GNU/Linux, one of the many biggest pieces of bloat in Windows that grows each and every release. It much be nice to create an octopus just as nasty as the one you want to lure people away from. "Let's make Linux cool". If that wasn't anything but hipster mentality then I don't know anymore. Linus wasn't meant to be cool. It was meant to be a workhorse that was more for the technically inclined.

Canonical tried to even create their own alternative to Wayland that practically went nowhere when it was determined Wayland and X could still co-exist. X still could provide background services, functionality, and libraries while wayland loaded with the compositor. What was it's name? Mir? XMir? Really who cares?

GPL doesn't prevent anything. That is complete bullshit. All it does is provide the ability to take source, fork it, and then, if you have enough support behind you, take over the direction of the software, even if you do contribute back to the parent project as long as the source stays open. It's as beneficial as it is a double edged sword like curse. Why do you think FreeBSD has a license that grants true ownership to the authors and project with equilibrium? So FreeBSD can stay the course of FreeBSD. If you want to be a team player, you have to accept the rules, and accept your contribution is going to be owned by you as well as the FreeBSD project, not just anyone. I'll say it as I've said it in other places, I think GPL is nice, but it's a scam of a license. The BSDL and MIT licenses are true open source licenses that grant ownership ability. CDDL is the same as GPL but it allows for instances of ownership and closed source for proprietary reasons. GPL claims you have ownership, but if you get forked and overtaken, how is it still your project? Just because your name's on doesn't mean shit. This is probably one of the reasons GPL people get so enraged over even mentioning CDDL software. The Creative Commons License is not as ownership driven as BSDL and MIT, but is still gives the original author some ability to control the direction of their project without threat of takeover unless they allow it.

It was GPL that allowed for things like systemd to worm their way in through takeovers and subversive agendas either directly or indirectly. Linus Torvalds saw it from Greg Kroah-Hartman and Kay Sievers trying to push Lennart's will into the kernel and finally put his foot down when the code turned out to be more buggy and unstable drivel, much like udev was for a VERY long time. It was better than devfs by all accounts, but it was far from perfect and problematic for too damn long. The problem is, one day Torvalds will be gone, and with him, any hope Linux will not turn into something it shouldn't be. GPL did allow for Gentoo and others like Xfce to make a stand to sustain the ecosystem, but at what cost? We'll never know. The fad crowd has gone off to Android and iOS, Linux still isn't as cool as they wanted it to be, and many distributions are still in the same boat they were before with maintainers who still can't write a simple shell script in universal common shell language.

Posted by Covarr

You seem to be misunderstanding what people have a problem with here. The problems people have with Red Hat and Canonical have very little to do with open source licensing and everything to do with monolithic, bloated software, corporate-style culture and development, and basically un-Linuxing Linux. Strong-arming the community into homogenizing everything and limiting user and developer choice is not good for Linux, and really ought to be saved for the proprietary realms of Apple and MS.

Heck, I say this as someone who likes Windows, uses Windows 10 as my daily driver... Red Hat and Canonical are Microsofting up Linux, and that's a bad thing, even if the licenses remain open.

Posted by tomman

Also: Linux is not cool anyway, since it's not made on the JavaScript framework of the week, importing seventy zillon libraries (half of those with buttcoin miners). THAT'S what hipsters care about nowadays, not even about cellphones anymore.

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by tomman
Wasn't this that pseudo-rapper guy that years ago ripped off Death Note's name for one of his albums?

Also, what are the specs on that thing? Sounds like yet another ARM toy built from some crap Chinese SoC where it's hard to run anything beyond the stock Linux build due to several of the drivers not being available in source form (hi Allwinner!), or whatever.

Oh, and "Linux 3.0" is quite old, we're already at 4.20!

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by tomman
So much for TridentEdgeHTML-powered Edge: MS has confirmed that not only they're switching Edge to Chromium, they're also bringing it to "supported Windows versions" and Mac (they assume noone wants Microsoft products on Linux, despite being a target for Chromium).

Not only Trident is now dead, the Chakra JavaScript engine is now orphan too since MS is moving to V8. At least they DID opensource that one.

And of course this change leads the way to a even bigger irony: using a Chrome-powered browser to download... Chrome.

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?

Posted by creaothceann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoHC_rfX50U

Posted by CaptainJistuce
You're probably better off for it.
I have no idea who Soulja Boy is.

Posted by tomman
Did I forgot to say "there are countries beyond just the United States of America"?